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(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Mayapur, November 2010)

Here in Mayapur, Satyadhana tells a story that he was going next door and one of Prabhupada's Godbrothers: Damadora Maharaja told him that:
"Prabhupada is your Diksha Guru and I'm your Siksha Guru'
..and then he came back later to Prabhupada and said that something really far out happenened: Damador maharaja told me this - and Prabhupada said: "You go back there and tell that I am your both Diksha and Siksha guru'
So generally the Siksha Guru becomes the Diksha Guru also implies that after the initiation take place the siksha also continues and then there is an on going siksha relationship as well, and that is what we see for all practical purposes mostly taking place in our movement, but is not always the case.
A lot of objection has been made or a lot of criticism has been there about the initiations that were maybe just formal diksha and that no training of the disciple and so on…but I think it's fine as long as the disciple is trained up by someone else - that is fine – it does not minimise the role of the Diksha Guru at all – because one devotee came and started to really lament and say:
"I have no relationship with my Guru, it's a very sad story, he never communicates with me and there is no exchange.' ...


The appropriate perspective on this situation is:
'That's fine, accept the mercy that you have received. He has the purity by his commitment to the Paramapara and has connected you to the Paramapara and has got you all the blessings from the Paramapara by the diksha - that is a tremendous blessing that you have got, and now the instruction you may have to get from somehere else.'
So it is a false kind of reasoning that:
'My Guru never writes to me, he doesn't answer my mail' and all these kind of things - it misses the point of understanding that the Guru has done a great thing; firstly by his purity by being connected to the Paramapara and secondly he is giving the blessings by diksha, and siksha may come by the community of the vaishnavas and that is actually fine – there is nothing wrong with that…it is part of the culture we have to have this - Of course there is an injunction that whatever a person learns from a Siksha Guru , it should get confirmed by the Diksha Guru just to avoid contradictions that may arise between the two authorities – but it is obvious in many cases that there will be a relationship with the siksha guru.
Now all these things are very intricate and very complex and I have sometime heard that devotees made a case that:
"We are the ones that are guiding these devotees on a daily basis and the spiritual master only comes from time to time and only sees his disciples some times and therefore the real siksha relationship, the real substance is more with us who are guiding the devotee on a more regular basis"
but that is also not always the case , it can't just be measured by quantity; it maybe that there are some who are guiding on a daily basis but it also maybe that the Diksha Guru, who probably became a Diksha Guru because of his maturity and experience, in those few moments that the meeting is taking place, giving instructions on a deeper level.
I am also remembering Brihat Bhagavatamrita, Gopa Kumar and his Spiritual master had an interesting relationship because his Spiritual Master appears from time to time in his life, and gives short instructions, doesn't explain them, sometime he is even ecstatic and can not express thing properly and Gopa Kumar is stuck with these instructions that he can not even understand properly.
Then he tries to follow them to the best of his ability – but it works because Krishna reciprocates with his sincerity in trying to follow the instructions of the spiritual master faithfully and he gives him the intelligence to somehow or other figure it out in due course of time.

(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Mayapur, November 2010)

 
 

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Our highest power is love

From The Secret Daily Teachings

Our highest power is love, and it is one thing each of us has an unlimited amount of. How much love do you give to others in one day? Each day we have an opportunity to set out with this great, unlimited power in our possession, and pour it over every person and circumstance.

Love is appreciating, complimenting, feeling gratitude, and speaking good words to others.

We have so much love to give, and the more that we give, the more we receive.
 
May the joy be with you,


Rhonda Byrne
The Secret and The Power... bringing joy to billions


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Fate Vs Effort In Time

Fate Vs Effort In Time.When a farmer sows seed,chances r there that it
may grow.But if it doesnt rain,there is no crop.On d other hand,if d
farmer doesnt plant but there is rain,again there is no crop.So time
also plays a part.He has2plant at a proper time.Planting is
compared2Effort,Fate2Rain-Lord Matsya
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I want Krsna!

 
 

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via KKS Blog by noreply@blogger.com (Hina) on 11/28/10

In the beginning our Krishna Consciousness is like a little island. It becomes like a tiny little island within our consciousness. The material influences are very strong within our consciousness. I compared them to a big ship. A little island - an ocean… and a big ship filled with material desires! Waving at us - very close. So this will go on at first.

Then as we are getting more advanced – the island grows in size, and then gradually it says that as the night of the naivety goes on, the ship with material desires goes at a more distance.

Then at nistha - when we are fixed in our determination that we want Krsna - when we have strong faith. That s where happiness is, but we still have our attachments to material things, but we know that it's not really going to do it for us. Then when we are going through, then we see that the ship is far away...



Then it says, when ruci arrives – at that time gradually, because the material influence is less, our taste in Krishna Consciousness begins to stretch over the surface of our entire consciousness. So in ruci there maybe some influence of passion but ones whole consciousness is filled with taste in Krishna Consciousness. So this ruci is a very nice stage.

It is said that in āsakti, this ruci which is over the surface of the entire water – it goes deeper and under the surface. So it begins to penetrate deeper and deeper in our āsakti and in our consciousness… but the material influence is still there but in āsakti the material influence is on the horizon – the ship is now on the horizon and gradually it begins to disappear – over the horizon.

In bhāva, the ship has become a shadow. So that' s very interesting, because the shadow means: It's not there and it is there at the same time. The real thing – the real material desire is no longer there, but the shadow means that one still knows – when one may not have that desire, but one knows it. If I want to – I could, since the option of that door is still there. That's the shadow of the material desire. It's still the material desire one suffers for, but still one is not affected by the heart: One is not struggling with the material desires. But the back door – one still sees; ' Oh I could go in the sense gratification direction. I could be the sense enjoyer if I wanted to, but I don't – I want Krsna!'. That is still there – but only a shadow on the horizon. So it's in the background – its far in consciousness.

In prema, the whole ocean becomes like ecstatic love. That's basically what we are looking at. I like this metaphor a lot. Somehow or other…. I had a thing with water, and I kind of liked this metaphor of the ocean, whereas the mind or the consciousness comparing to an ocean. It's been done many times in the scripture, for example:

apuryamanam acala-pratistham
samudram apah pravisanti yadvat
tadvat kama yam pravisanti sarve
sa santim apnoti na kama-kami


Which is the metaphor of all the rivers of desires going into the ocean. It is said that the ocean is so full, that all these rivers cannot disturb the ocean. The water level stays the same and it doesn't affect the ocean due to its fullness - so these rivers have no real affect.


(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Melbourne, October 2010)

 
 

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We need to have a philosophical outlook

 
 

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(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Mayapur, November 2010)

When we in the morning brush our teeth and we look in the mirror and then you say "Good morning handsome!"…you are looking at that familiar well known face: "I know this face"
No, you don't know this face, it's a new face that we are looking at, it is a face that we have never seen before in what we see in the mirror in the morning, but the changes from yesterday are so subtle that it is hard to notice – sometimes we notice:
'I never had this wart before, I never had hair growing out of my ears, my nose'
'a new bag has appeared' and so on...


Changes are there…-just like two pictures, find the seventeen differences between the two pictures – this kind of experience.
(One of the the Greek philosophers) said:
"You can not step in the same river twice."
So this is our understanding and Dhruva had this understanding that everything in this world is a temporary always changing manifestation, including one's body and therefore has no real meaning or of any significance.
There is an interesting letter of Bhaktisiddhanata that I like. It is describing that:
'Hiranyakasipu, where ever he looked he couldn't see the Supreme Lord and Prahlada was just the oppsite, wherever he looked he would see the Supreme Lord …….and we are in between!'
He places us in between of Hiranyakasipu and Prahlada which basically indicates that we have an attachment to Krishna and an attachment to the material world. Both! Therefore this exercise to look at the illusory nature of all the material manifestations, illusory in the sense that it is temporary, that is important and that we practice this exercise as part of our sadhana – that is part of our application of the philosophy.
We need to have a philosophical outlook which includes this Brahaman vision when we see this material energy.

(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Mayapur, November 2010)

 
 

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Common Interest - One's own interest

This is inline with Preaching to people which is common interest..Tolerating the personal discomforts in this endeavor is really common interest.

 
 

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I came across the point that the common interest should be given equal importance to one's own interest and that is the state of a saintly person. – That's quite something because:
Our own interest; 'first ourself'
then the interest of our dear ones,
then the interest of our aquaitances,
then maybe our fellow men, say members of Iskcon,
then maybe to people of the nationality that we can relate to and so on.
We treat people different…. We put their interest on lower levels than our own according to our own interest on them –
So it is very interesting that Dhruva Maharaja was told to come to that point:
the interest of everyone equal to his own – one in interest.

(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Mayapur, November 2010)

 
 

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Experience

Experience!!

 

One young academically excellent person went to apply for a managerial position in a big company.

He passed the first interview; the director did the last interview, made the last decision.

The director discovered from the CV that the youth's academic achievements were excellent all the way, from the secondary school until the postgraduate research, never had a year when he did not score.

The director asked, "Did you obtain any scholarships in school?" the youth answered "none".

The director asked, "Was it your father who paid for your school fees?" The youth answered, "My father passed away when I was one year old, it was my mother who paid for my school fees.

The director asked, "Where did your mother work?" The youth answered, "My mother worked as a clothes cleaner. The director requested the youth to show his hands. The youth showed a pair of hands that were smooth and perfect.

The director asked, "Have you ever helped your mother wash the clothes before?" The youth answered, "Never, my mother always wanted me to study and read more books. Furthermore, my mother can wash clothes faster than me.

The director said, "I have a request. When you go back today, go and clean your mother's hands, and then see me tomorrow morning"

The youth felt that his chance of landing the job was high. When he went back, he happily requested his mother to let him clean her hands. His mother felt strange, happy but with mixed feelings, she showed her hands to the kid.

The youth cleaned his mother's hands slowly. His tear fell as he did that. It was the first time he noticed that his mother's hands were so wrinkled, and there were so many bruises in her hands. Some bruises were so painful that his mother shivered when they were cleaned with water.

This was the first time the youth realized that it was this pair of hands that washed the clothes everyday to enable him to pay the school fee. The bruises in the mother's hands were the price that the mother had to pay for his graduation, academic excellence and his future.

After finishing the cleaning of his mother hands, the youth quietly washed all the remaining clothes for his mother.

That night, mother and son talked for a very long time.

Next morning, the youth went to the director's office.

The Director noticed the tears in the youth's eyes, asked: "Can you tell me what have you done and learned yesterday in your house?"

The youth answered, "I cleaned my mother's hand, and also finished cleaning all the remaining clothes'

The Director asked, "Please tell me your feelings."

The youth said, Number 1, I know now what appreciation is. Without my mother, there would not be the successful me today. Number 2, by working together and helping my mother, only I now realize how difficult and tough it is to get something done. Number 3, I have come to appreciate the importance and value of family relationship.

The director said, "This is what I am looking for, to be my manager.  I want to recruit a person who can appreciate the help of others, a person who knows the sufferings of others to get things done, and a person who would not put money as his only goal in life. You are hired.

Later on, this young person worked very hard, and received the respect of his subordinates. Every employee worked diligently and as a team. The company's performance improved tremendously.

A child, who has been protected and habitually given whatever he wanted, would develop "entitlement mentality" and would always put himself first. He would be ignorant of his parent's efforts. When he starts work, he assumes that every person must listen to him, and when he becomes a manager, he would never know the sufferings of his employees and would always blame others. For this kind of people, who may be good academically, may be successful for a while, but eventually would not feel sense of achievement. He will grumble and be full of hatred and fight for more. If we are this kind of protective parents, are we really showing love or are we destroying the kid instead?

You can let your kid live in a big house, eat a good meal, learn piano, watch a big screen TV. But when you are cutting grass, please let them experience it. After a meal, let them wash their plates and bowls together with their brothers and sisters. It is not because you do not have money to hire a maid, but it is because you want to love them in a right way. You want them to understand, no matter how rich their parents are, one day their hair will grow gray, same as the mother of that young person. The most important thing is your kid learns how to appreciate the effort and experience the difficulty and learns the ability to work with others to get things done.


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Over population is foolish

Overpopulation is foolish."Never was there a time u,Me,all these kings
didnt exist nor will there b a time v cease2exist.D only thing that
changes is d body(cat,dog,human,DemiGod etc)based on our
desire"-BG#2.12. So d population is already there.Not that it's
increasing everday.
Nature is ready2provide unltd food(God is unltd).But becoz there's
more demons,nature restricts production.No rain,no grains.Rice in
Factory??? D purpose is2correct us.V wanted2imitate God.Now it's
lesson2know,v r His servants&v r dependent on Him.

--
Yours
Dinesh
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Srila Prabhupada speaks on: "What Abortionists Don't Know"

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Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2010 12:00:53 +0100
Subject: Srila Prabhupada speaks on: "What Abortionists Don't Know"
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"What Abortionists Don't Know"

73/08/18 London, Bhagavad-gita 2.12

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Pradyumna (leads chanting, etc.):

na tv evaham jatu nasam
na tvam neme janadhipah
na caiva na bhavisyamah
sarve vayam atah param
[Bg. 2.12]

"Never was there a time when I did not exist, nor you, nor all these
kings; nor in the future shall any of us cease to be."

Prabhupada: This is a very important verse. The modern scientists,
philosophers, they say that after finishing this body, we no more
exist, finished, everything finished. This is not new. In olden times
also there were atheists like Carvaka Muni, he also said like that:
bhasmi-bhutasya dehasya kutah punar agamano bhavet. Now why you are
worrying about next life? As soon as this body is burned into ashes,
everything is finished. According to Vedic funeral ritualistic
ceremony, the body is burned. There are three ends of the body, either
to become stool, or to become ashes, or to become earth. Those who are
burying the body, just like the Christian, Mohammedans do, the body
becomes earth. Everything, from the earth it has come up: "Dust thou
were, dust thou beist." This beautiful body, nice body, will become
earth. And those who are burning, so their body becomes ashes. And
those who throw the body to be eaten by jackals and crows, they become
stool. This is the end of the body. We are taking so much care of this
body, but the ultimate end of this body is either stool, earth or
ashes. So foolish persons who are in the bodily concept of life, they
are thinking: "After all, this body will be finished. So so long the
body is there, senses are there, let us enjoy. Why so much
restrictions, no illicit sex, no gambling? No. These are all nonsense.
Let us enjoy life." This is atheistic life. Foolish life. They do not
know, so the body is not all.

This is the first lesson to understand, what is spiritual life, what
is spiritual knowledge. But all rascals, they do not know. Therefore
Krsna first of all slapped Arjuna: asocyan anvasocas tvam
prajna-vadams ca bhasase [Bg. 2.11]. "You do not know what is the
fact, and talking like a very learned man. Just try to understand what
is truth." Na tv evaham jatu nasam. First thing is that nasam, we have
no nasam. We never die, that will be explained later on more clearly,
we do not die. Nasam. At any time. It is not that sometimes we die and
sometimes... No. Any time, jatu. At any time. So: "Sir, You are
Supreme Personality of Godhead, You may not die. But we die, we are
ordinary living entities." So Krsna says, nasam, na tv evaham jatu
nasam na tvam: "Neither you nor I. We never die." "So it may be I am
Your friend and You are Krsna.

Therefore the others will die." No. Neme janadhipah: "Neither these,
all these people, all these soldiers, (and) the kings who have
assembled here, they'll also not die. There is no end. They'll never
die." So, na caiva na bhavisyamah, it is not that we did not exist in
the past, and we are existing at present. That is everyone knows. So
in the future, don't think that we may not exist. Na bhavisyamah. It
is not that we shall not exist in the future. Na bhavisyamah, not
exist, and another not. Two nots make one yes. Two negatives make one
positive. So therefore, we have two negatives. Na caiva na
bhavisyamah. Na bhavisyamah means not to exist in the future; that is
not. That means we shall exist. Na caiva na bhavisyamah sarve... all
of us. All of us, you, not that "Because I am God, because you are My
friend, God's friend, and all others..." No, everyone. This is
knowledge. In the Katha Upanisad there is the verse nityo nityanam.
Nityo nityanam. Nityanam means ever existing. Nitya means ever,
always. So either Krsna or we, every one of us are ever-existing,
because we are part and parcel of Krsna. Therefore, if Krsna is
ever-existing, so we are also ever-existing. A particle of gold is
gold, qualitatively. The value of gold mine and the gold earring may
be different. Gold earring may be, say, hundred dollars, but a gold
mine, millions of dollars. But both of them are gold, not that it is
iron. Therefore, less value, no.

Krsna is the Supreme Spirit Person. He is all-pervading. Everywhere He
is present. He is so expansive. We are simply... We are also
all-pervading, but within this body. That's all. Krsna is
all-pervading means throughout the whole creation, Krsna
all-pervading. And we are also all-pervading only in this body. You
are all-pervading within your body; I know the pains and pleasures of
my body; you know the pains and pleasures of your body. So
all-pervading means within this body. If I pinch anywhere, I'll feel
pain, you'll not feel pain. Therefore, you are not all-pervading, I am
not all-pervading. But Krsna is all-pervading. When I feel pain, Krsna
knows it. Vedaham samatitani. "I know everything." That is Krsna. Try
to understand distinction between Krsna and us. He's all-pervading,
but He's nitya, ever-existing. We are also ever-existing. Nityo
nityanam cetanas cetananam (Katha Upanisad 2.2.13). We have got
knowledge, Krsna has got knowledge. But we have got limited knowledge.
Krsna has got unlimited knowledge. That is the difference. Krsna is
also cognizant. He's also acknowledged. Nityo nityanam cetanas
cetananam.

Then where is the difference between Krsna and us? Yes, there is
difference. What is that? That Krsna, singular number, nityo
nityanam...nityanam, this is plural number. Cetanas cetananam.
Cetananam, this is plural number. So there is one person, singular
number. Others, they are plural number, we jivas. Anantyaya kalpate.
Jivas, that is described, the dimension of the jiva. I have several
times explained, kesagra-sata-bhagasya satadha kalpitasya ca [Cc.
Madhya 19.140]. First of all, divide the tip of the hair into hundred
parts. Then take one of the parts, one hundredth part, again divide
into hundred parts. That small, less than atom, that is the magnitude
of the jiva. And they are anantyaya kalpate. There is no limit. There
is no limit how many living entities are there. If you search out,
after passing stool, if you search out stool, you'll find millions of
living entities, germs. Even from the hole of your room, there is
small hole, and there are ants, hundreds and thousands will come out.
So similarly, within the hole, within the earth, within the air,
within the fire even, there are germs, worms in the fire. These
rascals, they do not know. They simply think... Because nitya, nitya
means ever-existing. So in the fire the living entities does not die.
They sterilize. "Now it is sterilized." That is all nonsense.
Sterilized means the body is killed, but not this... There is
abortion. The body is killed. Contraception... The body is killed. But
the soul, he's not killed. If you make some inconvenience to the soul,
who has taken shelter in the womb, and you kill the body, then he'll
have to search out another body. This is going on. Just see how the
rascal civilization is going on. They're thinking they're killing.
This way killed, that way killed. No. You, it is sinful because you
create inconvenience to that particular soul. He was taking shelter,
karmana daiva-netrena jantur dehopapattaye [SB 3.31.1]. By his karma
he was given shelter to develop a body, and if you kill that body,
that means you go against the order of the Supreme. Daiva-netrena,
suppose you are destined to occupy some room, and somebody does not
allow you to enter that room, is it not criminal? It is criminal,
unlawful detention, unlawful... It is unlawful, even in the state.
Similarly, a living entity is developing one body, and if you kill
that, you become immediately criminal, punishable. And the living
entity who is checked to develop the body, he's put into
inconvenience, he's also sinful. He's also sinful. Therefore it may be
simply he's wandering from one womb to another, one womb to another.
Because he committed that sinful activity abortion. Now the man who
causes his abortion, he also being punished, that "You'll never see
the light of this world. You'll simply have to live one womb to
another, one womb to another. Go on." So nature's punishment is like
that. But these foolish people they do not know.

Nityo nityanam. So every living entity is nitya. As Krsna is nitya. He
is singular number we are plural number. That is the difference. We
are many; Krsna is one. There cannot be many Krsnas. But there are
many living entities. So what is the difference between the singular
number? That is also stated here: eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman. This
one singular number is supplying all the necessities of this plural
number. Is it not fact? We are very much disturbed over population.
That is all nonsense. Krsna is quite able, if there is
overpopulation... There cannot be overpopulation, because there are
already ananta living entities, what to speaking of overpopulation? It
is already there, you cannot count. There is no question of... There
are already overpopulation. And they can be provided by Krsna. Eko
bahunam yo vidadhati kaman. Krsna is not limited; He is also
unlimited. He can provide unlimited living entities. There is no
scarcity of food. So this theory that overpopulation is nonsense. It
is also nonsense. There cannot be overpopulation. But there is
restriction, by nature. Nature will restrict production of food if
there are demons. Nature will not provide the demons. You'll find in
the Srimad-Bhagavatam, Fourth Canto, nature is quite prepared to
supply all the foods, but as soon as there are number of demons,
because the whole plan is to correct. Just like the criminals are sent
to the prison house for being corrected so that they may not again
commit criminals. That is the purpose of... Similarly, we are all
criminals who are in this material world. The purpose is to be
corrected. We wanted to imitate Krsna, to become Krsna, and therefore
we violated the orders of Krsna, and that criminality means material
life.

krsna-bahirmukha hana bhoga vancha kare
nikata-stha maya tare japatiya dhare
(Prema-vivarta)

This is maya, this material world, maya. This body is false, maya. So
we have to accept this body because we wanted to enjoy. So enjoy, you
enjoy with this body, particular body. Either human's body, or dog's
body, or cat's body, or demigod's body, you get as you desire. You get
a material body and enjoy. This is material life.

So Krsna also, although in the material life, Krsna is providing all
necessities of life. Duly, there is seasonal changes. You get seasonal
fruits, flowers, grains, and all necessities. You'll be still given
chance, especially to the human being, that you get all supplies,
necessities. Eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman. All necessities, But
again you revive your consciousness, Krsna consciousness. That is the
plan. But if you do not revive your Krsna consciousness, if you simply
enjoy the senses, then there will be restriction of supply. This is
the law. That is the restriction of supply. Therefore, there will be
no rain. And if there is no rain, what factory will do, you rascal?
You can manufacture scissors and knives and buckets of plastic, but
you cannot prepare rice and wheat. That is not possible, sir. That
will depend on rain. So immediately rains will be restricted. Now you
all chew all these kankar (?). What is this kankar? These stone
particles?

Devotee: Pebbles?

Prabhupada: What are called these? In Hindi, it is called kankar, Indian.

Revatinandana: Pebbles?

Prabhupada: Pebbles, big. Small. Sand, sand. Yes. So you can eat that.
When there is no rain... That is also eatable. The peacocks, they eat.
The pigeons, they eat. Yes, the, they can eat. You have seen? They're
eating. So everything is there eatable. So there is no question of
overpopulation. Overpopulation is already there, anantyaya kalpate.
They why do you call overpopulation? When there is already fire, why
do you say there will be fire? It is already there. So, but, the
restriction, eko bahunam yo vidadhati kaman. That eka, that eka,
Krsna, He orders. He does not order actually. Just like, not every
time the police has to be ordered by the superior authority to punish
the criminal. They know how to punish. So the nature knows how to
punish these criminals. Therefore, the scientists are finding now
shortage of petrol, shortage of this, shortage... What to do? What to
do? This is the position. Otherwise, there is no question of
overpopulation. The supply is restricted. That is the problem. Eko yo
bahunam. Because He supplies all the necessities, the supply will be
restricted. As we become more and more sinful and without Krsna
consciousness, they will be put into difficulties, they will be dying
within the womb, they will be killed, within the womb, there will be
war, there will be pestilence, there will be famine, there will be
earthquake. In so many ways, we have to die. Bhutva bhutva praliyate
[Bg. 8.19]. Again, take birth, this business will go on. And
ultimately, when the whole universe is annihilated, then again we take
shelter in the body of Maha-Visnu and live for, in that way, without
any body, for many millions of years. Again, there is creation, and
then again given chance. "All right, take another chance. Be Krsna
conscious."

So this is material creation. Bhutva bhutva praliyate [Bg. 8.19]. As
we have got this body, we have got the chance, not to become Krsna
conscious, and if we miss, then I do not know where I am going next
life. But I am not going to die, that's a fact. That will be explained
in the next verse. I am not going to die. So we existed in the past,
we are now existing at present, and we shall continue to exist in the
future. This is the position. But how we shall exist? What kind of
body, either demigod's body or dog's body or tree's body or fish's
body, that will depend on my work. Or we go back to home, back to
Godhead, Krsna like... We get the spiritual body like Krsna.
Everything is possible.

So it is our business to see what kind of body we shall get next life.
Tyaktva deham punar janma naiti mam eti kaunteya [Bg. 4.9]. Actually,
if we become Krsna conscious, then after giving up this body, we are
no more going to accept any material body. Because spiritual body is
already there. That is eternal. The spirit soul, the spiritual body,
that is never vanquished. It was existing in the past, it is existing
now, and it will continue to exist in the future. Because people may
say, "How is that? How odd thing Krsna is speaking, that na tv evaham
jatu nasam na tvam neme janadhipah." Because actually, we died. Maybe
we have taken birth again, but everyone dies. How that, that we do not
die?" No. It is not the body, but Krsna is speaking about the soul.
Soul is ever-existing. It existed in the past, it is existing now, and
it will exist. Maybe, different type of body, that is Krsna's
instruction. Another thing is that the Mayavadi philosophers say that
we are one. There is no "you" and "me." Everything one. So, then Krsna
is defective. If Krsna says, "You, Me, all others," so it is not one.
It is not homogeneous. We are all individuals. "You are individual, I
am individual, and all the kings and soldiers, they are all
individuals." So the Mayavadi theory that after liberation everyone
becomes one, one lump sum... What is called? Homogeneous spirit. No.
Then Krsna is false. The Mayavadi theory accepted, that we become one
lump sum, then Krsna's theory... Not theory, Krsna's actual knowledge.
Then it becomes false. And if Krsna speaks false, something defective,
then where is the use of reading Bhagavad-gita? Why should we read
Bhagavad-gita which is spoken by a person who is defective? No. That's
not... What Krsna is speaking, that is fact. Otherwise, why
Bhagavad-gita is given so importance? So, so Mayavadi philosophers,
they try to interpret in a different way, " 'I' means this, 'you'
means that," some... (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 2.12 -- London, August 18, 1973

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Relationships are Everything

The Importance of EQ
Some complain
about getting along
with others
who cause them
many problems—
ah, if they
could only be alone
they could experience
some peace and quite—
but really we are all
relational creatures
as is all existence,
conscious or inert
if we really study
the universe:

Solar Eclipse
Everything has
its component parts
from solar systems and planets
to the elements composing them
earth, water, fire, air, space
living things, celestial bodies
cells, DNA, atoms, molecules
mountains, streams, valleys
plains, deserts, oceans
all having meaning
by comparison
and relationship to.
atom
Whatever we see
or experience is
in relationship
to something else
as nothing stands alone
though all is one in Krishna
he manifests form and variety
and we cannot, not be
in correspondence to
another part,
even a speck.
Our spouse knows how to push our buttons
To master oneself
or our life
we must master
relationships
seeing them as life’s
building blocks
the key to happiness
and fulfillment
as mirrors
to help us
look at ourself.
Pure children
We are interdependent,
independence is illusion
from any angle of vision
whether atomic or universal
the ultimate truth being
we are part of Krishna
who is the center
of our center
life of our life
soul of our souls
the glue which
causes things to
relate to things,
parts to parts
people to people.
Our potential to help one another
True lasting happiness
is playing the part
we were designed
to play
in loving service
to our Source
and more intimately,
the Lord of our hearts.
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Our principle forms
of God, Radha-Krishna
Gaura-Nitai
who are never alone
always surrounded
by loving servants
friends, parents, lovers—
every type of relationship
finds its rest in them.
Our pure nature
Now we have to practice
relating to other
people and devotees
whether a spouse, child
friend, boss, guru,
teacher, student,
antagonist, all for
relationship practice
to be loving, kind
compassionate
choosing to find
the good, not seeing
the blemishes as who
they—or we— really are.
Can't escape
Can’t escape others
by false renunciation
since we must learn
how to get along
with all types of
“others”
from the lowest
mean selfish conditioning
to the great souls—
all can be our teachers
with the potential
to help uncover
our sleeping soul
or show us
what we need
to be purified from
learning that without
relationships we
can’t exist
whether in this
world or the next.
Gopa Kumara Returns to Krishna
 

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ONE SHOULD FEEL

 
 

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ONE SHOULD FEEL happy only by experiencing the happiness of the Supreme Lord.

ONE SHOULD FEEL grateful to the Supreme Personality of Godhead for having obtained such a nice human form of body, and one should properly utilize it.

Everyone should be unhappy to see others in distress and happy to see others happy. Atmavat sarva-bhutesu: ONE SHOULD FEEL the happiness and distress of others as his own.

With devotion ONE SHOULD FEEL, "God is great, and I am very small. Therefore my duty is to offer my prayers to the Lord." Only on this basis can one understand and render service to the Lord.

These are good signs in chanting the holy name of the Lord. In ecstasy, ONE SHOULD FEEL the entire world to be vacant without the presence of Govinda.

Offering all one's activities to the Lord, ONE SHOULD FEEL desire, anger, and pride only with regard to Him.

- Srila Prabhupada

 
 

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THE TOPMOST EMPATHY

 
 

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Everyone should be unhappy to see others in distress and happy to see others happy.

Atmavat sarva-bhutesu: ONE SHOULD FEEL the happiness and distress of others as his own.

- Srila Prabhupada

 
 

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Above These Modes Of Material Nature

 
 

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We are interested in Krsna, and Krsna can pull us above these modes of material nature. But we will not be free from the influences, and if we have a nature as I described of rajas - sattva or something like that – then we can expect that transcendental knowledge comes in the middle of that. We'll have years of struggle with our passionate nature. That passionate nature will be there. If we are very much in goodness, then we will slot in more easily in Krishna Consciousness. Immediately in the mind we will be less agitated – more peaceful, but due to the influence of these modes – the agitation may remain.

(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Melbourne, October 2010)

 
 

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Yashoda Krishna!

I liked these paintings very much!..

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Measuring Importance by eternity

 
 

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Transcribed by Frederick Prabhu
(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Sweden May 2010)

So the Bhagavad-gita is training us in different ways to prepare for this final moment, to remember Krsna. One way is to always have one eye on eternity. To see things from an eternal perspective; to see the world from an eternal perspective, whatever we look at, to measure it next to eternity.
So what is the benefit, or what is the importance of anything? Measure it next to eternity - If you give importance to something you have to put it next to something else, because you have to measure it. So something important, you have to put it next to something unimportant - You cannot make something important without measuring it. Important is a way of measuring - Is It something big. Yeah? ...So we are measuring.

So importance: well, we can measure it with money. Let's measure it that way - so, whatever brings a lot of money, that's important. Right? That's one way of measuring importance.
We can measure importance with ... health. Important! Whatever gives you good health, that's important. That's good - Green and like lots of natural things and fresh milk from the goat or something! So measure it all by health...
So like this, we measure by health. Importance measured by health - but then health is such a thing, you can't win anyway. Right?
No matter what you do, right? I spoke with the minister of health of ISKCON, and ....he wasn't well!
What to do? Health; you can't win even if you try, even if you do everything right. The minister of health is certainly doing lots of right things, eats the right things, does the right exercises, but even he is not always healthy. No one can stay healthy.
Money, ah well, we all know, you have it and then you don't! That's the nature of money. Money is cancala, you can't keep it. Money has to move. You have some money, and then *snatch* then he has the money - because, he's a business man from India! -They're very good!:
" For you I make no profit!"
and before you know it, money has changed from pocket to pocket, but even they cannot keep the money, although they are good at it. That's the nature.

So, important- If we measure importance by all these kind of temporary things, then what's the benefit? But if we measure importance by eternity, then we have come to something that is of lasting importance. So now that we measure everything by eternity, what is the importance of anything? Measure it by eternity, and suddenly the whole world falls into place, everything!
Srila Prabhupada once said that there are so many anarthas, so many unimportant material things and then he said that actually, the whole material body is an anartha. It's actually not important, because it's temporary - Of course that doesn't mean that we neglect it, We use it for a while, but it's something that we use for a while, like a hired car. Yudhistira is here from Oslo and he hired a car, and sure enough he doesn't wanna make any scratches on the car, but tonight he's going to turn it back in. He's going turn it back in and then he'll never think of that hired car again. Why would he? He couldn't care less if someone makes a scratch on it.

So the body is the same, it's like a hired car. We temporarily use it, take care of it, but how important is it? So certainly, while we're in it, we give it attention, but it's not the main focus. So how nice, if we look at everything from a perspective of eternity. It prepares us for the ultimate goal of life, any time that we remember eternity, immediately everything falls into place.
Bhagavatam says: we even go beyond eternity, because we understand that behind eternity is Krsna, - the eternal Supreme Personality of Godhead. So therefore Bhagavatam measures everything in relation to Krsna:
"ṛte 'rthaḿ yat pratīyeta na pratīyeta cātmani tad vidyād ātmano māyāḿ yathābhāso yathā tamaḥ". [SB 2.9.34]
It's one of the nutshell verses of the Bhagavatam. One of the four verses in which the whole Bhagavatam is contained. In that verse it is said that the value of anything is measured in relationship to Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. So that's very nice. If one lives like that, then everything makes sense, everything falls into place. Just whatever it is, put Krsna next to it - Is this good for Krsna, is this beneficial for the service of Krsna?

Transcribed by Frederick Prabhu
(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Sweden May 2010)

 
 

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Prabhupada's appearance Day - Lec (part4)

 
 

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(Kadamba Kanana Swami,
Prabhupada's Appearance Day 2010, Croatia)


One female disciple never met Prabhupada very intimately, she got initiated by letter in 1974 and  she was staying in the Edingburgh temple in Scotland.  T ribhuvanatha who was temple president, he had inspired her by his preaching -  because Tribhuvanatha was a very inspired devotee. 
Then she became initiated on Tribhuvanatha's recommendation by letter.  She was happy with that because she was afraid to even meet Prabhupada in person. 
She thought: "It was just as well that I got initiated by letter." 
Then later on, she once made a little bag, she sewed a bag and made it very nicely for Prabhupada's kartalas and she sent that bag with some devotee


After some time, one day in temple in Edinburgh came a blue letter -  Prabhupada had used these aerogrammes, these kind of blue things you fold, there's no envelope and you just use that "an aerogramme." 
So this blue letter was in the mail, from Prabhupada to her.  She couldn't believe it:
'For me?!!'
Yes a letter to her and all the devotees came in holding up the letter and said:
 'yeah it's for you'
'no not for me'
"Yes Yes for you yes"
So they all stood around and said:
'Well are you going to open it up?!;
In those days if a devotee got a letter from Prabhupada, there was no such thing as saying:
 'This is a  private letter – I got this letter'
No No, they would just allow the one who received the letter to open it and they were already saying:
'What does he say, what does he say, what's in there!'  everyone wanted to know!
So they wanted to know what parabhuapada wrote – and prabhupada wrote:
"Thank you so much for this bag you made for these karatalas.  It very nice, you are every expert.  It is very nice that you are engaging you're expertise in the service of Krishna, and of course I am only receiving this bag as a a servant of Krishna and I am only using it on his behalf, for his service – so I can receive it.'
Then he said about chanting sixteen rounds, following four regulative principles and like that.
Then this devotee, she was explaining that "If my house was to catch on fire, besides first saving all the living beings in the house, the letter would be the first thing to go for in the house to save, it's my greatest treasure." 
It showed how Prabhupada the great Acharya, the Jagat Guru the spiritual master of the three worlds, that spiritual master that can deliver the three worlds, that spiritual master took the time and trouble to find out the place where an insignificant devotee stayed and took the trouble to write a letter -  and that purchased her. 
That is the one thing that she kept…so many things happenend, she got divorced and this and that , her children left and living alone and trying to survive, not easy and her life moved along…but that letter always stayed there :
 'I got that mercy from Prabhupada, how can I ever forget him or ever neglect his kindness upon me and therefore I must somehow or other try to repay him.'
 In that way that letter sealed the connection with Srila Prabhupada.  In this way Srila Prabhupada connected with so many and just gave himself.


(Kadamba Kanana Swami,
Prabhupada's Appearance Day 2010, Croatia)

 
 

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Get Out of My Way!

 
 

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Sometimes here in this world we are seeing that devotees get quite impersonal. They get their relationship with Krishna and don't care about anybody else:
"I'm serving Krishna now get out of my way!"

The mood in the spiritual world is that they are serving together:
The cows, The cowherd boys… They are all serving Krishna together.

(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Mayapur, November 2010)

 
 

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Feel yourself in joy-Good one!

From The Secret Daily Teachings

Every day, or at the very least once or twice a week, take a few minutes and focus on seeing yourself in joy. Feel yourself in joy. Imagine only joy ahead in your life and see yourself basking in it. As you do this the Universe will move all people, circumstances, and events to bring you that joy. You can't be in joy if you have money worries, or health worries, or relationship problems with friends or family. So deposit some joy in the bank of the Universe as often as you can. There isn't an investment that is more worthwhile.

May the joy be with you,

Rhonda Byrne
The Secret and The Power... bringing joy to billions


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VISION

 
 

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"Vision without action is a daydream. Action with without vision is a nightmare."
- Japanese Proverb

"Leadership is the capacity to translate vision into reality."
- Warren Bennis

"If you limit your choices only to what seems possible or reasonable, you disconnect yourself from what you truly want, and all that is left is a compromise."
- Robert Fritz

"A leader's role is to raise people's aspirations for what they can become and to release their energies so they will try to get there."
- David Gergen

"The master of the art of living makes little distinction between his work and his play, his labor and his leisure, his mind and his body, his education and his recreation, his love and his religion. He hardly knows which is which; he simply pursues his vision of excellence in whatever he does, leaving others to decide whether he is working or playing. To him he is always doing both."
- Buddha

"Rowing harder doesn't help if the boat is headed in the wrong direction."
- Kenichi Ohmae

"The future belongs to those who see possibilities before they become obvious."
- John Scully

"The real voyage of discovery consists of not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes."
- Marcel Proust

 
 

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We Can Rise Above It

Rays of Hope...from HH.Kadamba Kanana Swami Maharaj

 
 

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The modes of material nature in this way are afflicting us. But we are not helpless in the matter. The modes of material nature may create waves for us, and these waves comes through our consciousness - due to our conditioning and these influences as I described earlier a little bit in astrological terms. So we can clearly see that they are there, but we can rise above it, and that is what we can do by taking shelter.

So the waves that are there drag us along, but we can swim in another direction, and the more we take shelter of devotional service – the stronger we become as a swimmer - and the less these waves will have a grip on us. The more we can determine our course, than the less we are dragged along by the currents and the under currents. That is an interesting point to consider. So we are not helpless. We are not at all forced – we just act by the modes. But depending on which mode influences us, then we will be strongly swept up in the waves.


(Kadamba Kanana Swami, Melbourne, October 2010)

 
 

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