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ISKCON and social welfare: Mission Drift

28, October 2011, By His Grace Krishna Kirti Dasa


In 2001, Sripad Jayadavaita Swami gave a lecture series titled "Food
for Death", which is still available on his website at
http://www.jswami.info/seminars#food and which examined how prasadam
distribution seen by the public as ordinary welfare work affects
ISKCON's core values. Sripad Bhakti Vikasa Swami in his 2011 lectures
titled "Some Concerns About ISKCON" and "Further Discussion on
Concerns About ISKCON" addresses the same issue Jayadvaita Swami
addressed but in a more generalized context that includes other
welfare initiatives.[1] Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja in his lectures also
addresses what he identifies as fundamental, philosophical differences
that have emerged within our society.

As far as social welfare is concerned, the lectures of both Swamis
make a common point: the time and resources devotees increasingly give
to indirect preaching in the form of welfare work, at the expense of
direct preaching, reflects ISKCON's growing acceptance of karma-kanda
as a part of its core mission and, hence, core values.

Mission drift and Vyasa's dissatisfactionThat as grand a spiritual
institution as ISKCON could itself become mundane is not a new idea.
In the Bhagavad-gita at the beginning of the 4th chapter, Krishna
describes the system of the guru-parampara and how, in the course of
time, the succession had been broken and the knowledge of the science
of yoga was lost. On some occasions, Srila Prabhupada himself said
that ISKCON could be destroyed not by outsiders but by insiders. Such
changes are the result of a gradual drift of the disciplic succession
away from its original message and mission.

Mission drift usually does not occur suddenly, like some natural
disaster. It almost always happens over long stretches of time, over
generations. The manner in which it is likely to occur is suggested by
Srila Narada Muni in his conversation with Srila Vyasadeva about the
reason for Vyasa's despondency. Narada Muni says,

"Whatever you desire to describe that is separate in vision from the
Lord simply reacts, with different forms, names and results, to
agitate the mind as the wind agitates a boat which has no resting
place. The people in general are naturally inclined to enjoy, and you
have encouraged them in that way in the name of religion. This is
verily condemned and is quite unreasonable. Because they are guided
under your instructions, they will accept such activities in the name
of religion and will hardly care for prohibitions" (SB 1.5.14 – 15).

With regard to mission drift, Narada's statement is relevant in these
two respects:

Describing reality without connection to the vision of the Lord
agitates people's minds.
Where Krishna is not directly and sufficiently glorified, conditioned
human nature all but guarantees a perverse outcome.


The first attribute would correspond to an absence of direct reference
to Krishna in any stated purpose or description of the activity
itself. For example, in the Gita itself Lord Krishna criticizes the
pretentious followers of the Vedas known as veda-vada-ratah, who take
the various rituals and sacrifices offered in the Vedas as ends to
worldly enjoyment. They perform religious acts that are disconnected
from krishna-bhakti, because, as Narada suggests, the connection
between the acts and the Lord are not obvious.

It may be said that indirect worship of the Lord can be performed with
the expectation of making spiritual progress as long as the performer
himself remembers the true connection. But the second attribute in
Narada's statement explains why that almost never happens. Because
people in general are inclined to material enjoyment (especially in
Kali Yuga), their perverse nature predisposes them to forget the
original purpose of such indirect worship of the Lord and give up the
regulative principles that must also be followed in the course of its
performance.

A view of the world separate in vision from the Lord need not be
totally separate to cause people to gradually become disinterested in
religion. The disjuncture may be partial. Vyasadeva's former works
that left him dissatisfied were not devoid of krishna-katha. The
Mahabharata, after all, features Krishna and the Bhagavad-gita itself.
So how could it lead to dissatisfaction? As stated by Narada, Vyasa
gave too much emphasis to pious activities and not enough to bhakti.
"Although, great sage, you have very broadly described the four
principles beginning with religious performances, you have not
described the glories of the Supreme Personality, Vasudeva" (SB
1.5.9). Vyasadeva was trying to gradually purify people by dovetailing
their propensity for enjoyment into religious activity. Yet that did
not have the effect Vyasa intended. As stated in the purport to this
verse,

"The prompt diagnosis of Sri Narada is at once declared. The root
cause of the despondency of Vyasadeva was his deliberate avoidance of
glorifying the Lord in his various editions of the Puranas. He has
certainly, as a matter of course, given descriptions of the glories of
the Lord (Sri Krsna) but not as many as given to religiosity, economic
development, sense gratification and salvation."

Again, symptoms that one's spiritual program has the same problem
identified by Narada include emphasis of its alleged material benefits
while speaking minimally about its spiritual benefits. It is like
basing a large-scale preaching program on telling people that
Krishna's holy names "recharges your batteries", gives you peace of
mind, while hardly speaking about their true spiritual benefit.

Although the above criticism of spiritual activity devoid of proper
understanding is put forward by Shri Narada himself, one may still
question whether proper understanding is even necessary. For example,
saying "Hare Krishna" in a mocking or derisive way to taunt devotees
will nevertheless purify the person who utters Krishna's name in this
way. This is an example of ajnata-sukrti. Valmiki Muni is the
quintessential example of how transcendental activity performed
unintentionally nevertheless has the same transcendental effect as if
it were performed intentionally. This is also Sukadeva Goswami's point
in narrating the Ajamila moksha-lila. Like medicine, the potency of
Lord's holy name does not depend on the understanding of the person
who hears or utters it. The same can be said of Krishna prasadam.

So then it may be asked what harm is there in clandestinely
distributing Krishna prasadam to the masses, as if one were conducting
yet another mundane welfare program popular among the karmis? The
expected outcome is that the karmis give us their money and good will,
we give them prasadam, they get purified, and we expand the Krishna
consciousness movement. It sounds like a win-win-win-win situation.
What could possibly go wrong with it?

The key assumption made here is that devotees will maintain a level of
purity sufficient to keep themselves from falling into materialistic
consciousness while engaging in activity that purposefully avoids
krishna-katha. The time one spends extolling the perceived material
benefits of prasadam (which you call food now, not prasadam) is time
spent NOT glorifying Krishna. One is not engaging in krishna-katha
while one is trying to avoid describing Krishna. Distributing prasadam
while not presenting it in relation to Krishna has the same kind of
problem Narada pointed out to Vyasa. Although it is prasadam that is
being distributed, it is not presented in relation to the Lord. For
this reason the devotees will not be able to maintain for long the
requisite level of purity required of such a clandestine effort to
distribute prasadam to be successful. This is why Srila Prabhupada
insisted that prasadam distribution be accompanied by kirtana.

It may be further objected that although some people are too neophyte
to engage in any service other than direct hearing and chanting of the
Lord's names and pastimes, the devotees distributing prasadam in the
guise of worldly food relief are strong enough in their own devotional
service such that they will not fall down. This is not true. As Srila
Prabhupada explains in the Nectar of Instruction (Text 5),

— QUOTE —

"The Krsna consciousness movement prescribes sixteen rounds daily
because people in the Western countries cannot concentrate for long
periods while chanting on beads. Therefore the minimum number of
rounds is prescribed. However, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati used to
say that unless one chants at least sixty-four rounds of japa (one
hundred thousand names), he is considered fallen (patita). According
to his calculation, practically every one of us is fallen, but because
we are trying to serve the Supreme Lord with all seriousness and
without duplicity, we can expect the mercy of Lord Sri Caitanya
Mahaprabhu, who is famous as patita-pavana, the deliverer of the
fallen."

— END QUOTE —

If already it is admitted that 16 rounds of japa plus the 4 regulative
principles are still deficient in terms of quantity of sravanam and
kirtanam, and if, according to Srila Prabhupada's assessment above,
quotidian devotional service makes up for that deficiency, then a
preaching program deficient in sravanam and kirtanam means that the
devotees will not get sufficient spiritual support from their daily
activities. They will lose their taste for spiritual life in the way
that Narada describes to Vyasa.

Some examples of preaching disconnected from krishna-kathaIn his
lecture, Bhakti Vikasa Swami reminisces about how in the 1980s
devotees started selling non-devotional paintings and other
paraphernalia to accumulate money. This money would then be spent for
preaching purposes. The collection program and the direct preaching
program were separate.

The result? Devotees lost their taste for spiritual life, and the
program proved unsustainable. As Maharaja points out, the best-selling
paintings were pictures of dogs. They were "selling pictures of Dog,
not God." It is not that the money was not being used for preaching
purposes. It was. Yet in the end the program proved unsustainable.

We also find in Srila Prabhupada's letters similar, cautionary
reminders to his disciples that selling incense is not their primary
business. "Attention diverted to incense business is not a very good
sign. We should give all our energy for distributing BTG" (Letter to
Satsvarupa 21/6/1971). ISKCON has first-hand experience with the
dissatisfying nature of activity in which sankirtana is at best a
secondary objective.

Mid Day Meals lacking krishna-katha, lacking kirtana.What makes
something a secondary objective as opposed to a primary objective?
Consider the Sunday Feast. Contrary to what the name implies, the
primary objective of the Sunday Feast is not to give people prasadam.
The primary objective is to give people a chance to hear
krishna-katha. The secondary objective is to give people prasadam. Of
course, prasadam is a necessary part of the program, as prasadam is
directly the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Krishna, Himself. It
is His mercy. Yet distributing prasadam is not the primary objective.
We use it as an incentive to get people to come to our centers to hear
our lectures. The emphasis of our program and hence its primary
objective is on the propagation of krishna-katha. It is more important
than any other aspect of our mission.

Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja in his lecture notes not only the lack of
krishna-katha in the Mid Day Meals program but also that it is
advertised as having mundane, not spiritual, objectives.

"The advertising for the Mid Day Meals program, if you see their
brochures is that 'we're helping to build the nation', and that
appeals to people. We're helping to 'build the nation' by getting the
children educated, giving them a good future. But that's against our
philosophy. The idea of 'building the nation' is totally mundane."

Maharaja further notes how in India the India Regional Governing Body
had dealt with the question of what may be considered appropriate and
inappropriate in distributing prasadam, and one of the requirements
they came up with was that it must at least be accompanied by kirtana
and lectures. Yet the lack of devotees available to conduct kirtana
and the secular Indian government interfere with this requirement.

The first problem, which Jaydvaita Maharaja also mentions in his own
lectures, is that in the places where the Mid Day Meals program is
conducted on a substantial scale, there is nowhere near enough
devotees that can perform kirtana at each of the places where prasadam
is distributed. Kirtana performers cannot be hired like bus drivers.
So the prasadam gets cooked and dropped off at the schools and
presented as if it were any other mundane meal.

Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja raises the question of whether Krishna is
reciprocating in a way devotees running Mid Day Meals haven't
anticipated. What might happen if, for example, instead of our pujaris
worshipping the Deities in the temple we hire non-devotee brahmanas to
worship Them? Maharaja asks, "Is it prasada?" If a murti of Krishna is
handled negligently, is Krishna still obliged to remain there as
murti? Some of the same considerations seem applicable in the case of
prasadam.

The second problem has to do with the secular Indian government, or
secular governments wherever they exist. But in India in particular,
in some places the government will not allow kirtana and lectures
because whatever is given to the children or poor through the
government must be strictly food relief. Religious elements are not
always allowed. And for that reason kirtana and lecture would also not
allowed.

And because devotees have collected extensively for these programs, it
is nearly impossible to withdraw from places that disallow kirtana.
Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja in his lecture gives the example of the day
school on the ISKCON Juhu property, where, after some time, the
devotees there saw how the school itself was taking up time and
resources for no spiritual end, and it was not producing devotees
anyway. But when they tried to close down the school, the parents and
students objected, and now the temple has to raise huge amounts of
money to relocate the school outside of the temple campus. Thus the
devotees who run these programs will find it very difficult, if not
impossible, to reconnect the Mid Day Meals program with kirtana.


Embracing karma-kanda within ISKCONBhakti Vikasa Maharaja raises a
more serious issue: that the Mid Day Meals program is advertised as
fulfilling purposes that are against the philosophy Srila Prabhupada
taught. This is an example from the "Who Are We?" page of ISKCON Food
Relief Foundation's Delhi Mid Day Meals website:

"ISKCON Food Relief Foundation is a Non-Religious, Non-Sectarian, and
Not-for Profit Charitable Trust"
(http://www.delhimdm.com/whoweare.php).

The website's vision page (http://www.delhimdm.com/vision_m.php) makes
it even more self-evident that the prasadam distribution program
embraces objectives opposed to ISKCON's original core mission (bolding
added).

— QUOTE —

Vision: Removing hunger and upscaling learning opportunities for
underprivileged children

Mission: ISKCON Food Relief Foundation works with Government to
provide hygienically cooked, balanced, nutritious, wholesome Mid-Day
Meal food to children in municipal and government aided schools in
India to improve access to good food and promote education.

Philosophy: ISKCON Food Relief Foundation believes that food is a
fundamental right. Inadequate nutrition not only affects physical,
mental, and emotional health of children adversely but also restricts
their learning ability, development opportunities and effective
participation in the community.

We believe that a simple way of breaking the vicious cycle of hunger
and poverty is by providing them regular and nutritious food and this
fulfills ISKCON's mission.

Goals: 1. To promote the provision of distribution of sanctified meals
all over the India; and 2. To promote food system education;

— END QUOTE —

This is Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja's response to examples like the one above:

— QUOTE —

The idea of "building the nation" is totally mundane. It is the idea
that we will "build the nation" by having more people educated so they
can become lawyers, doctors, or more likely become factory workers. It
is also the idea that we are helping children to improve their life,
and that's also mundane. And that we want to help develop the present
modern society. . .

But that wasn't Prabhupada's welfare program at all. His social
welfare program was to develop varnashram communities where people
don't have to live in this demonic society. That was Prabhupada's
welfare program.

It wasn't that Prabhupada was callous to social welfare, but he wanted
to do so through varnashram and varnashram education—that people will
be educated according to their role in varnashram. So the advertising
for Mid Day Meals is totally mundane.

And you may say it is just a way to induce people to give a donation
for it, but the problem is that, when we start talking like this, our
people go out and speak to the public, they meet businessmen and tell
them, "OK, we're helping hungry children, and building the nation. .
.", and you keep repeating it and saying it again and again and again,
you start to think like that yourself. And instead of following
Chaitanya Mahaprabhu's order jare dekha tare kaha krishna upadesh,
you're going to people to talk about mundane things. It changes the
whole atmosphere of ISKCON.

— END QUOTE —

Maharaja's argument echoes the same point that Narada Muni made to Vyasadeva.

How the fall from suddha-bhakti to karma-misra-bhakti takes
placeJayadvaita Maharaja in his own lecture series argues similarly,
except that he follows through with his argument to its logical
conclusion, which is the mixing of karma-kanda with bhakti:

— QUOTE —

There is a problem, or downside to that, apart from whether or not
you're actually doing something that you are supposed to be doing, or
that you are authorized by Srila Prabhupada, by a Founder-Acharya to
do. You have this problem:

First you say, "We're going to make a strategy here. We're going to do
something charitable, and people are going to give us their
appreciation. We understand that it is not really our business, but
we're going to do it, and people are going to see that we're doing it,
and that's going to help us in our main business. We're going to be
able to distribute more books, people will give us more facility, and
so on." That is stage one.

Stage two is that as you start to get appreciation and as you preach
to the devotees that this is what we're going to do, the next stage
two comes. That is, devotees start thinking that we really are doing
something here, which is our mission. That really, "We are doing good
work here. Really, we're fulfilling Prabhupada's mission. We're
helping the needy. We're saving people afflicted by disaster." That's
stage two, to the point where if anyone says, "Well, Prabhu, you know,
this is not . . .", then you'll start getting heavy letters saying,
"Don't you know there are sincere devotees working all over the world,
dedicating themselves, risking their lives. . ." That's stage two—this
IS our mission.

And stage three, four, five comes when you reach the mature stage,
like the Salvation Army. I don't know how they're known in England, in
America, when you have junk, that you would dispose of, rather than
take it to the dump, you call the Salvation Army. And they cart away
your old clothes, old furniture, old whatever-it-is, and distribute it
to the poor. Or the St. Vincent DePaul Society. There are various
organizations. . .

I knew of that organization. I used to see their trucks with the big
shield on it, when I was a child, a boy. And I don't think I was
younger than about 20 before I found out that they had any sort of
spiritual component to them. They are in fact a Christian missionary
organization, they do have a message about Jesus and salvation and so
on. But I had no idea what it was, and in fact, because in my
tradition the word "salvation" is not a big term, as far as I
understood, "salvation" meant picking up your old garbage and carting
it away, and that's "salvage."

So in the mature stage, you finally reach the point where even your
leaders of your organization believe that this is your mission. The
leaders of your organization, the theologians, the priests, believe
that this is what Jesus, or this is what Jehova, or this is what Lord
Chaitanya wanted us to do. And at that point, what is the distinction
between you and a karma-kanda organization?

What is the distinction between you and the Red Cross or the Red
Crescent Society? Now that you are doing the work of all these
charitable societies, who is doing your work? Who is there to preach
renunciation? Who is there to preach that you're not this body? Who is
there to preach that you should turn your back on material enjoyment
and go back home, back to Godhead, now that you're busy fully
dedicated to the urgent mission of uplifting the afflicted people of
the poorer classes of this material world, so they can have a decent
life, who is going to do that other work?

— END QUOTE —

Though Jayadvaita Maharaja focuses more on the end result—the
establishment of karma-kanda as one of ISKCON's core values—he and
Bhakti Vikasa Maharaja make the fundamental point that because welfare
activities like the Mid Day Meals program is promoted in a mundane way
and in ways that stand against our long-held siddhantas, the
transformation of ISKCON into yet another mundane religious
institution is not merely a remote, theoretical possibility. It is
likely.

And now, perhaps inevitable.

Some Quotes from Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura on Altruism
and CharityFrom Bhaktisiddhanta Vaibhava, page 421:

— QUOTE —

The thousands of karmis who have opened innumerable hospitals, old age
homes, centers for the poor, and schools, and the thousands of jnanis
who have undergone meditation and severe austerities, are
insignificant compared to a single kanishta-adhikari Vaishnava once
ringing the bell before the Lord's deity. This is not sectarianism,
but plain truth. Atheists are wholly incapable of realizing this; thus
they become either direct or indirect blasphemers of devotional
service, or adherents to the doctrine of harmonistic all-inclusiveness
(Amrta Vani 102 – 3; Sri Srila Prabhupadera Upadesamrta 174).

Being averse to Lord Visnu, countless jivas have come to Maha-maya's
dungeon to envy Lord Visnu in countless ways. To deliver even one of
them from Maha-maya's fortress and make him a devotee of Krsna is
unlimitedly better welfare work than the construction of countless
hospitals and schools (Sri Srila Prabhupadera Upadesamrta 286).

Krishna-bhakti is the only way to deracinate miseries from the world.
You are working only for the good of the body and treating the
symptoms, not the original disease. Your patchwork schemes of various
social, economic, and political ideologies are like blowing on a boil,
which gives but a momentary and false sense of assuagement. The real
cure is to lance the boil and squeeze out the pus. Similarly, the pus
of material attachment must be excised by the sharp words of the
expert devotee, the only genuine well-wisher of human society (Jati
Sekhara Prabhu, disciple of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura).


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[1] Both lectures by Bhakti Vikasa Swami are available here:
http://www.oneiskcon.com/2011/09/his-holiness-bhakti-vikasa-swami-has-some-concerns-about-iskcon/


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The field of activities and its interactions [BG.13.08]

Bhagavad-gita As It Is | Part [BG.13.08] 
 
TEXTS 6-7:
 
maha-bhutany ahankaro
buddhir avyaktam eva ca
indriyani dasaikam ca
panca cendriya-gocarah
 
iccha dveshah sukham duhkham
sanghatas cetana dhritih
etat kshetram samasena
sa-vikaram udahritam
 
 
TRANSLATION:
 
The five great elements, false ego, intelligence, the unmanifested, the ten senses and the mind, the five sense objects, desire, hatred, happiness, distress, the aggregate, the life symptoms, and convictions—all these are considered, in summary, to be the field of activities and its interactions.
 
 
 
PURPORT:
 
From all the authoritative statements of the great sages, the Vedic hymns and the aphorisms of the Vedanta-sutra, the components of this world can be understood as follows. First there are earth, water, fire, air and ether. These are the five great elements (maha-bhuta). Then there are false ego, intelligence and the unmanifested stage of the three modes of nature. Then there are five senses for acquiring knowledge: the eyes, ears, nose, tongue and skin. Then five working senses: voice, legs, hands, anus and genitals. Then, above the senses, there is the mind, which is within and which can be called the sense within. Therefore, including the mind, there are eleven senses altogether. Then there are the five objects of the senses: smell, taste, form, touch and sound. Now the aggregate of these twenty-four elements is called the field of activity. If one makes an analytical study of these twenty-four subjects, then he can very well understand the field of activity. Then there are desire, hatred, happiness and distress, which are interactions, representations of the five great elements in the gross body. The living symptoms, represented by consciousness and conviction, are the manifestation of the subtle body-mind, ego and intelligence. These subtle elements are included within the field of activities.
 
 
 
The five great elements are a gross representation of the false ego, which in turn represents the primal stage of false ego technically called the materialistic conception, or tamasa-buddhi, intelligence in ignorance. This, further, represents the unmanifested stage of the three modes of material nature. The unmanifested modes of material nature are called pradhana.
 
 
 
One who desires to know the twenty-four elements in detail along with their interactions should study the philosophy in more detail. In Bhagavad-gita, a summary only is given.
 
 
The body is the representation of all these factors, and there are changes of the body, which are six in number: the body is born, it grows, it stays, it produces by-products, then it begins to decay, and at the last stage it vanishes. Therefore the field is a nonpermanent material thing. However, the kshetra-jna, the knower of the field, its proprietor, is different. 
 
Translation and commentary by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
 
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What’s on your Mind when we say "Astrology" ? - Msut Read!!!

Vedic Astrology






I see many people’s astrological charts; most of them are absolutely fine. They show lives that are just as they should be – decent health, decent wealth, decent family relations, and so on. But the owners of these charts do not see it. They’re worried, depressed, disturbed, and continually hankering for something more than what they’ve been handed in life.

They believe that they’re unfortunate and suffering. And there is one thing about these people

that I’ve seen again and again. All of their plans for more pleasure and happiness always end in more pain and misery. Their wishes for satisfaction only end in frustration.

I often see ways that people can be happier and more peaceful. They could invest time and energy into obtaining lasting results that would truly improve their lives. But people are led by common misunderstandings about astrology or by unscrupulous "astrologers" who are not qualified to give readings, and they end up losing out in many areas of their lives.

For astrology to be effective, we must work on the level of identity. Astrology should be a finger that points you back to your true identity in this life. Circumstances may be pleasant or unpleasant, but they will always exist in whatever situation you find yourself. We all must find our own internal balance that is independent from the forces that surround us – sitosna sukha dukhada: we need to tolerate both pleasure and pain.

The effort to rush into pleasure already causes us pain – a hankering for good feelings. When you are so focused on pleasure, you will be vulnerable to pain. And who ever told us that there shouldn’t be pain in life? Who do you think you are that you should only have joy, pleasure and good things in life? It is essential to understand your position in this universe in order to see why you must tolerate bad circumstances as well as good ones in life.

If you’re in prison, you try to get out. You don’t paint the walls and try to liven up your cell with some plants or colorful curtains. Likewise, when in this life experiencing birth, death, old age, disease, and suffering it is not enough to just think of improving your present circumstances; you must also try to find the ultimate solution.

Astrology is a vedanga, a support to the Vedas; hence, the ultimate solution is also mentioned in the Vedas. It says vedaishcha sarvair aham eva vedyo - "He is to be known by all the Vedas." Bhagavad Gita also gives solutions to all problems if properly studied and understood. These solutions come from authoritative sources through a succession of disciples, or guru-parampara.

When something good happens, like the overcoming of an addition or the break-up of an unwanted relationship, we say, "My astrological chart says so." On the other hand, when it’s a failure in business, sudden bad health, or the break-up of a desired relationship, we can’t accept it. We want to fight, to find comfort and a solution that satisfies our desires.
Astrology should help people understand their lessons in life. It is not meant to focus on the temporary enjoyment you want out of life. Astrology should be used to make every challenge an opportunity to grow and learn, and to move on to a better next life, or to return to the spiritual world completely. For that, one must be ready to work more deeply, to understand the goal, and to know really how to get the most out of astrology – it could be way beyond what you think you need.


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How Do You Approach Vedic Astrology? - Must Read!!!

How Do You Approach Vedic Astrology?
Fri, 07/29/2011 - 17:27 by ShriRadhe

[ Courtesy : Thanks to Goravani Das, who makes these concepts easier to understand and accessible to all who want to know Vedic astrology in depth. ]








Vedic astrology is a part of Vedic philosophy that highlights the principles of the theory of karma and reincarnation. In short, it means that we reap what we sow. The actions that we perform are recorded and become the basis of our future experiences in this and the following lives. Therefore astrology is not fatalistic; the seeds are sown by our actions, guided by our thoughts, which are backed by our desires, which is our choice.



Vedic Astrology reads this karmic script: what it is that we desired in the past, what thoughts followed, what actions took place, and what is waiting for us as destiny, due to our past actions.



We keep creating desires, allowing thoughts, and performing actions according to this script and in this way get caught up in the cycle of birth and death. Wanting to know the outcome of one's own forgotten choices and actions is what nowadays is called an 'astrological consultation.'



Most of the time, unfortunately, people forget that they themselves created this destiny. When they consult an astrologer they act as if they were not responsible for the past, and they want to know all about future in order to change it as they like -- creating more and more karma -- without taking responsibility for their past actions. This may sound strange, but it's true.



Since our future is based on our past actions, it can be modified by our present actions and this gives rise to very interesting possibilities: by adopting certain measures we can lessen the impact of our negative actions in the past.



These measures work principally by generating vibratory energy through repetitious chanting of a mantra. The energy thus radiated erases the script at the point where past karma is likely to cause trouble. A major accident can be reduced to a small one; a huge financial loss can be limited to the loss of a few hundred dollars. The vibratory structure of the creation is modified by deliberately produced vibrations. The ancient sages have left a treasure trove of mantras to achieve every end that a person can think of.



Here is a story I would like to share, describing karma, the reaction to that karma, and how a person creates even more complex karma in the process.



Ms. Goldie has been visiting me for some six years now; she just does not take responsibility for any of her actions and every time she asks me to fix her problems, without doing what is advised. She makes up her own conclusions and meanings and keeps blaming karma, as if karma were something that fell from the sky one day and got stuck to her life.



Her first consultation was six years ago when she was very eager to marry. She asked me how her marriage would be, and whether she would be happy.



I told her "According to your karma you shall have a loyal and honest person who will be scholarly, but he shall not be rich. There is no opulence indicated for you in this life, but he will love you and your children to the best of his ability and provide all basic needs. If you are patient and kind with him and accept this, then you can be very happy but satisfaction is the key here."



She said, "Oh I have always been poor so I don't mind; I only want a nice man who is famous."



There was something she wasn't telling me. I had noticed how her Venus was causing excess imagination and her Moon in her house of speech. I told her to be careful what she imagined fame as, and to be kind with her husband.



Only at our second appointment she told me that she was calculating that a famous man should surely become rich; so in this way she was scheming to trick karma and have a famous and rich husband after all.



After searching here and there for a special person she became desperate and in want of someone who is famous, very intelligent, etc., she rejected many boys who were suitable for her, who had simple jobs and finally chose a man who was well known in the society to be intelligent and popular.



Soon after the marriage she realized how her imagined theory was not working. He wasn't becoming rich because he was popular, but he was popular because he was unattached to making money.



She lamented and told me how she thought that by knowing astrology she could go another way to get what she wanted, and now she felt cheated by karma.



I consoled, her indicating so many good things in her life with this man -- and advised her to be satisfied with the good natured he had and not become a sharp-tongued wife.



This time her question was: "When will I have a child?" This time I knew well that with this chance of making him father, she wanted to push him to work hard to earn money. I told her that this was also not going to work. I also indicated good times for conceiving, etc.



After they had a child and the idea of her to pressurize him into making money did not work, she started going around to other people in the community, almost begging for help, talking bad about her husband, which naturally her husband did not approve of. They had a simple life with sufficient food and shelter.



Though she did get some better dwellings, she destroyed the peace in the house, creating so much trouble by complaining and being unsatisfied, that now she was thinking of divorce; she was hoping that the next one would be better.



Unfortunately, as I had warned her, her karma was strong. Who ever she married, her destiny was to have only little luxuries. Without getting this point, she went around trying to change her karma instead to learning from it, became more and more desperate and poorer in heart than would have been necessary.



Vedic Astrology reveals a profound truth to us: that our lives are controlled from the moment of birth to the moment of death. Realizing this can be catastrophic to some people who are not yet ready to accept that they are living in the benevolent cupping hands of the Supreme Lord at every moment of their lives.



In modern times, especially in the west, it is vogue to think of ourselves as masters of our lives, as the creators of our destiny. This may be argued in philosophical terms as fact, but Vedic Astrology shows that there is another side; a side where we can see that we are fully controlled.



One of the world's greatest philosophers, Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (early 1500's, India), stated that to understand the Absolute Truth is to know that we are simultaneously both fully controlled and independent. In other words, full determinism and free will exist simultaneously for us. What this means is that while our lives are fully controlled by God through the universal demigods, at the same time His power and majesty in creating us is so amazingly great that we experience free will at every moment, even though we are being controlled. We feel as though we are choosing. We feel the emotional results of our choices.



It is true however that even our choice is controlled. Even our choices flow from our mental condition from birth and from the mold with which we were individually created.



The cosmic super-reality is that we are simultaneously free and controlled. Astrology focuses on one side of this equation, while other sciences and perceptions focus on the other.



The changes we can make can have two outcomes: one is to make a positive change by accepting our karma and working to learn our lessons, and another is to try to trick karma, getting into a mess of karmic reactions, as in the case of Ms. Goldie.




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~Endless Love~

Love in this world depends on so many material
considerations,therefore it's not satisfying to the heart. The Supreme
Lord is the object of Love&the recipient of our Love. If we develop
Our Love for Him it will never be lost. Between the living entities
the Love is not experienced fully. If there's Love between living
entities,it should be among all regardless of the bodies. But we find
it's not so. We find Love between same species of life but not among a
man&beast or man and frog. We may Love so many different things or
different people in this world but at a certain point of time,we'll
lose the person&the Love which gets lost creates so much pain but
actually it's an illusion or a kind of dream.
Only with Supreme Lord we can feel the Love 100%,not with any other
living entity.

A tinge of real Love that's in Spiritual world between the Lord&His
devotees can be found in mother for her child which is unconditional.
If we can revive our Love for Krishna which was lost,we would really
feel the pain of all living entities and at that time we will not only
feel Love for our family members but also for the living entities in
the whole world.

So this is the way to enjoy endless Love. Everyone wants to be loved
by someone else. Anger is absence of Love or experienced because of
lost Love. By performing loving Devotional Service to the Supreme
Lord,we automatically Love all the living entities&everyone can feel
the Love at heart for one another at that time. But be careful,Enemies
such as pride,envy,lust,greed,madness,anger are always ready to stab
your heart to steal the real Love inside&thereby cause pain at heart.

--
Yours
Dinesh
Blog:http://dinesh-krsna.blogspot.com
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~Endless Love~

Love in this world depends on so many material
considerations,therefore it's not satisfying to the heart. The Supreme
Lord is the object of Love&the recipient of our Love. Our Love for Him
will never be lost. We may Love so many different things or different
people in this world but at a certain point of time,we'll lose the
person&the Love which gets lost creates so much pain but actually it's
an illusion or a kind of dream.

A tinge of real Love that's in Spiritual world between the Lord&His
devotees can be found in mother for her child which is unconditional.
If we can revive our Love for Krishna which was lost,we would really
feel the pain of all living entities and at that time we will not only
feel Love for our family members but also for the living entities in
the whole world.

So this is the way to enjoy endless Love. Everyone wants to be loved
by someone else. Anger is absence of Love or experienced because of
lost Love. By performing loving Devotional Service to the Supreme
Lord,we automatically Love all the living entities&everyone can feel
the Love at heart for one another at that time. But be careful,Enemies
such as pride,envy,lust,greed,madness,anger are always ready to stab
your heart to steal the real Love inside&thereby cause pain at heart.

--
Yours
Dinesh
Blog:http://dinesh-krsna.blogspot.com
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What is this body made of? Who controls it? How it changes? Whats goal of the soul? Part [BG.13.05]

Bhagavad-gita As It Is | Part [BG.13.05]
 
 
TEXT 4:
 
tat kshetram yac ca yadrik ca
yad-vikari yatas ca yat
sa ca yo yat-prabhavas ca
tat samasena me srinu
 
 
 
TRANSLATION:
 
Now please hear My brief description of this field of activity and how it is constituted, what its changes are, whence it is produced, who that knower of the field of activities is, and what his influences are.
 
 
 
PURPORT:
 
The Lord is describing the field of activities and the knower of the field of activities in their constitutional positions. One has to know how this body is constituted, the materials of which this body is made, under whose control this body is working, how the changes are taking place, wherefrom the changes are coming, what the causes are, what the reasons are, what the ultimate goal of the individual soul is, and what the actual form of the individual soul is. One should also know the distinction between the individual living soul and the Supersoul, their different influences, their potentials, etc. One just has to understand this Bhagavad-gita directly from the description given by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and all this will be clarified. But one should be careful not to consider the Supreme Personality of Godhead in every body to be one with the individual soul, the jiva. This is something like equating the potent and the impotent. 
 
 
Translation and commentary by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
 
 
Yours
Dinesh
 

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Bhagavad Gita - Song of God!

Today is the most auspicious day when Lord Krishna spoke Bhagavad Gita 5000 years ago in the battlefield of Kurukshetra. This is the most favourite book in my life and also in the lives of many devotees. Especially Bhagavd Gita As It Is by Srila Prabhupada is the only one edition in the world which transformed the hearts of millions of readers and made them devotees of the Supreme Lord Sri Krishna. Following are the images which are very famous for Bhagavad Gita!


















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Supersoul Vs Conditioned Soul (Paramatma Vs Jivatma)

This understanding is very essential for our progress in the path of self-realization as well as the realization of the Supreme. Because when we perform our actions, the mood with which we perform is monitored by the Supreme Lord seated within us. It's the bhava with which we perform. Whole heartedly, with love for Him, without any reservation. Again there are many today who say if we think of Him for a moment whole heartedly that is sufficient, I am not sympathising with those mundane people who claim themsleves to be of the same level as pure devotees.

Everything belongs to Him, we cannot offer Him or please Him by our endeavors. But when we act according to His desire(inclusive of the spiritual master's desire, which are the same in one sense), He can be pleased. The holy name chanted by a neophyte in Krishna Consciousness is thousands of times far better than that of an impersonalist or a Mayavadi.

The action, chanting the holyname is the same but with what understanding it's chanted is important. A neophyte ringing the bell in the temple of Krishna is extremely fortunate than a mayavadi who is engaged in his so-called service. When mayavadis sing, Krishna feels like pinching His hearts with Vajra. Krishna doesnt like to hear His names be chanted by mayavadis. A pure devotee can easily identify if Krishna is really present in the names chanted by a person.

Paramatma Vs Jivatma




















































































































































































































































































































































































































































S.NoParamatma (Supersoul) Jivatma(Conditioned Soul)
1Param-atma refers to the Supreme Lord who expands Himself as the Supersoul and who enters into the hearts of all living entities as well as all the atoms. Thus param-atma is the localized aspect of the supreme, situated in everyone's heart as the transcendental witness. Jiva-atma, or the individual soul, refers to the living entity which is embodied in a physical form, produced by material nature.
2Conscious of all that pervades the entire cosmic manifestationConscious of only the minute part of the material elements into which the conditioned soul is trapped
3The Supersoul acts as the neutral observer, witness, adviser, guide and friend of the individual soulThe Conditioned soul being envious of the Supreme Lord of His position enjoys or suffers the reactions of his good and bad actions entrapped in the 25 material elements
4The Supreme Lord has unlimited energies that pervade the Cosmic manifestationThe Conditioned soul being infinitsimal part of the Lord also wants to become Isvara but his position is very minute and is always dependent on the energies of the Supreme Lord. Can never act on his own.
5The Supreme Lord is the creator and controllerThe living entities are the created and controlled. They are controlled by either the external or internal energy of the Lord
6The Supreme Lord remains Supreme Lord at all times and never gets covered by illusory energy. If so there's no point in listening His words in the Bhagavad Gita and in that case the material nature or the illusory energy becomes greater than the Lord., which is baseless.The living entities can never become equal to the Supreme Lord by any mystic yoga practice or any other means.
7Outside the body of the conditioned soul, the Supreme Personality of Godhead remains as the time factor.The conditioned souls are controlled by the Supreme Lord by the time factor. No one can escape from the clutches of Time which is Krishna. Time takes away everything. But can control even Krishna by pure devotional service. When the conditioned souls get back Home(Godhead), they surpass the time and live eternally without any problems.



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Beauty is worse than wine, it intoxicates both the holder and beholder


Beauty is worse than wine, it intoxicates both the holder and beholder







Srimad Bhagavatam - 3.28.16-17




TRANSLATION



His loins are encircled by a girdle, He stands on the lotus of His devotee's heart. He is most charming to look at, and His serene aspect gladdens the eyes and souls of the devotees who behold Him. The Lordis eternally very beautiful, and He is worshipable by all the inhabitants of every planet. He is ever youthful and always eager to bestow His blessing upon His devotees.PURPORTThe word darśanīyatamam, which is used in this verse, means that the Lord is so beautiful that the devotee-yogī does not wish to see anything else. His desire to see beautiful objects is completely satisfied by the sight of the Lord. In the material world we want to see beauty, but the desire is never satisfied. Because of material contamination, all the propensities we feel in the material world are ever unsatisfied. But when our desires to see, hear, touch, etc., are dovetailed for the satisfaction of the Supreme Personality of Godhead,they are on the level of the topmost perfection.Although the Supreme Personality of Godhead in His eternal form is so beautiful and pleasing to the heart of the devotee, He does not attract the impersonalists, who want to meditate on His impersonal aspect. Such impersonal meditation is simply fruitless labor.


The actual yogīs, with half-closed eyes, fix on the form of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, not upon anything void or impersonal.The word sarva-loka-namaskṛtam means that He is worshipable by everyone on every planet. There are innumerable planets in the material world and innumerable planets in the spiritual world as well. On each planet there are innumerable inhabitants who worship the Lord, for the Lord is worshipable by all but the impersonalists.


The Supreme Lord is very beautiful. The word śaśvat is significant. It is not that He appears beautiful to the devotees but is ultimately impersonal. Śaśvat means "ever existing." That beauty is not temporary. It is ever existing — He is always youthful. In the Brahma-saḿhitā (5.33) it is also stated: advaitam acyutam anādim ananta-rūpam ādyaḿ purāṇa-puruṣaḿ nava-yauvanaḿ ca. The original person is one without a second, yet He never appears old; He always appears as ever fresh as a blooming youth.The Lord's facial expression always indicates that He is ready to show favor and benediction to the devotees; for the nondevotees, however, He is silent. As stated in Bhagavad-gītā, although He acts equally toeveryone because He is the Supreme Personality of Godhead and because all living entities are His sons, He is especially inclined to those engaged in devotional service. The same fact is confirmed here: He isalways anxious to show favor to the devotees. Just as the devotees are always eager to render service unto the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the Lord is also very eager to bestow benediction upon the pure devotees


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We are prisoners of our own desire!

We are prisoners of our own desire!
Desire is the constant companion of the living entity. It's never
possible to become desireless. To become desireless itself is a
desire. Every action we perform has a desire behind which is to reap
the results. Desire to enjoy separately from the will of the Lord is
the sin that separates us from God and takes us far from Godly
qualities.
We are constantly monitored by the agents of higher authorities who
are designated to carry out the work as per the order of the Supreme
Lord.

Actions that are inline with the revealed scriptures yield good
results and gradually takes one to higher levels of consciousness


Actions that are against the laws of nature bring misery to the actor
and also to those involved in the action,

Therefore first thing we have to understand is we are accountable for
our every single action. Just like there are state laws governed by
the authorities,there are laws of nature which work behind our eyes.
These laws of nature are code of conduct for human beings provided in
the scriptures-word of God.


When Arjuna asks Krishna that what is the position of an unsuccessful
transcendentalist. Is he not going to loose both material and
Spiritual result and get lost like a riven cloud with no position in
any sphere? Krishna says,"One who does good My friend is never
overcome by evil. Such a person will enjoy heavenly happiness in the
higher planets and after that takes birth in a family of
transcendentalists or aristocrats. Certainly such a soul is very
rare."

It depends on the gravity of our devotion when we performed Devotional
Service to Krishna.

Our desires should be dovetailed in such a way that the results are
favourable to our devotion to Krishna or the actions of our desires
should be pleasing to Krishna.

When our desires are not pure we think we are the enjoyers of all that
we survey. And it's because everything belongs to Krishna,when we use
it for our enjoyment without acknowledging Him,we are thieves and
then we become prisoners bound by our own desires. When we consider
everything for us it's material desire but when it's for Krishna it's
Spiritual desire.

--
Yours
Dinesh
Blog:http://dinesh-krsna.blogspot.com
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The Spiritual Warrior!












It's my privilege to have come in contact with the Ultimate Self Realization Course of His Grace Sriman Sankarshan Das Maharaj since five years. There are astras-weapons of arrows which multiply themselves many times to kill many number of enemies in one shot. So does our dear Spiritual Master Sriman Sankarshan Das Maharaj shots countless number of emails through his self realization system at one shot killing the demons of misgivings in the minds of millions of subscribers everyday.



All I want to say now is only the Spiritual Master knows the strategic points in the battle-field in which conquering enemies of lust, greed, pride, anger, envy, madness becomes a child's play. Otherwise we are nowhere in front of those enemies who are within ourselves in the hearts and who bring only pain to the heart and the soul. Just one shot from the lotus mouth of the Spiritual Master is enough to penetrate our stone hearted structures which are like rock forts that are protected by weak guards of intelligence.Our Spiritual Master is the Commander-In-Chief in saving our souls from danger. Our reckless behaviour only hurts us further by the shots of our Enemies within. He who follows the instructions of Spiritual Master can save himself as well as thousand others. My day is not complete without reading your mail my dear Maharaj. You are an ocean of mercy. You are so kind enough in your talk but at the same time you are like a razor to cut the falsities and establish the Absolute Truth

My sincere prayers to Sri Sri Radha Madhava to help fulfill the mission of our Spiritual Master Sriman Sankarshan Das Maharaj who wanted to see the whole world happy,"Sarva Sukhino Bhavantu" by spreading Krishna consciousness.




Your Servant,

Dinesh, Chennai, India





















































































































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Ice Breaker!




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Ute Ute Gopala - By HH.Lokanath Swami, Must Hear!!! : Krishna

Ute Ute Gopala - By HH.Lokanath Swami, Must Hear!!! : Krishna
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Messmerizing Govinda Mana Laga-By HH.Lokanath Swami : Krishna

Messmerizing Govinda Mana Laga-By HH.Lokanath Swami : Krishna
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Ice Breakers!





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Madhava Prabhu Sings Hare Krishna

Either save to computer using save as or listen online by playing the url in media player or in Google Chrome browser.

http://www.gauravani.com/music/NV24Kirtan2008/07-MadhavaDas-24HourKirtanFestival08-GauraVani.com.mp3
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The spiritual exchange or rasa is fully exhibited in spiritual existence between living beings and the Supreme Lord.

Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is not only a superior literature but is the ripened fruit of all Vedic literatures. In other words, it is the cream of all Vedic knowledge. Considering all this, patient and submissive hearing is definitely essential. With great respect and attention, one should receive the message and lessons imparted by the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.

The Vedas are compared to the desire tree because they contain all things knowable by man. They deal with mundane necessities as well as spiritual realization. The Vedas contain regulated principles of knowledge covering social, political, religious, economic, military, medicinal, chemical, physical and metaphysical subject matter and all that may be necessary to keep the body and soul together. Above and beyond all this are specific directions for spiritual realization. Regulated knowledge involves a gradual raising of the living entity to the spiritual platform, and the highest spiritual realization is knowledge that the Personality of Godhead is the reservoir of all spiritual tastes, or rasas.

Every living entity, beginning from Brahmā, the first-born living being within the material world, down to the insignificant ant, desires to relish some sort of taste derived from sense perceptions. These sensual pleasures are technically called rasas. Such rasas are of different varieties. In the revealed scriptures the following twelve varieties of rasas are enumerated: (1) raudra (anger), (2) adbhuta (wonder), (3) śṛńgāra (conjugal love), (4) hāsya (comedy), (5) vīra (chivalry), (6) dayā (mercy), (7) dāsya (servitorship), (8) sakhya (fraternity), (9) bhayānaka (horror), (10) bībhatsa (shock), (11) śānta (neutrality), (12) vātsalya (parenthood).

The sum total of all these rasas is called affection or love. Primarily, such signs of love are manifested in adoration, service, friendship, paternal affection, and conjugal love. And when these five are absent, love is present indirectly in anger, wonder, comedy, chivalry, fear, shock and so on. For example, when a man is in love with a woman, the rasa is called conjugal love. But when such love affairs are disturbed there may be wonder, anger, shock, or even horror. Sometimes love affairs between two persons culminate in ghastly murder scenes. Such rasas are displayed between man and man and between animal and animal. There is no possibility of an exchange or rasa between a man and an animal or between a man and any other species of living beings within the material world. The rasas are exchanged between members of the same species. But as far as the spirit souls are concerned, they are one qualitatively with the Supreme Lord. Therefore, the rasas were originally exchanged between the spiritual living being and the spiritual whole, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The spiritual exchange or rasa is fully exhibited in spiritual existence between living beings and the Supreme Lord.

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The desire to sincerely hear is the first qualification

The proper method for receiving this transcendental message(Srimad Bhagavatam) is to hear it submissively. A challenging attitude cannot help one realize this transcendental message. One particular word is used herein for proper guidance. This word is śuśrūṣu. One must be anxious to hear this transcendental message. The desire to sincerely hear is the first qualification.

Less fortunate persons are not at all interested in hearing this Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. The process is simple, but the application is difficult. Unfortunate people find enough time to hear idle social and political conversations, but when invited to attend a meeting of devotees to hear Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam they suddenly become reluctant. Sometimes professional readers of the Bhāgavatam immediately plunge into the confidential topics of the pastimes of the Supreme Lord, which they seemingly interpret as sex literature. Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam is meant to be heard from the beginning. Those who are fit to assimilate this work are mentioned in this śloka: "One becomes qualified to hear Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam after many pious deeds." The intelligent person, with thoughtful discretion, can be assured by the great sage Vyāsadeva that he can realize the Supreme Personality directly by hearing Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam. Without undergoing the different stages of realization set forth in the Vedas, one can be lifted immediately to the position of paramahaḿsa simply by agreeing to receive this message.

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An Unexpected Guest, Diary, Volume 12, Chapter 3


            Diary of a Traveling Monk

                   Volume 12, Chapter 3

                    November 29, 2011

                    Indradyumna Swami


                  "An Unexpected Guest"

                  [ By Laxmimoni dasi ]


If Srila Prabhupada visited you,
Maybe just for a day or two,
And came by unexpectedly,
I wonder what you'd do.

Oh, I know you'd give your nicest room,
To such an honored guest,
And all the food you'd offer,
Would be the very best.

And you would keep assuring him,
You're glad to have him there,
That serving him within your home,
Is a joy beyond compare.

But if you saw him coming,
Would you meet him at the door,
With arms outstretched to welcome,
This honored visitor?

Or would you have to change your clothes,
Before you let him in?
Or hide some magazines,
And put the Gita where they'd been?

Would you watch those mundane movies,
Upon your TV set?
Would you have to answer e-mail,
While he was taking rest?

Would you run to turn your music off,
Before it reached his ears?
And put the tilak on your forehead,
Or bind or shave your hairs?

Would you cover up your Playstation,
Take your posters off the wall?
Would you have to hide the DVDs,
You just bought at the mall?

Would you gossip with your partner,
About devotees' faults?
Would you have to re-cook dinner,
Without the garlic salt?

Would you put Tulasi on your neck,
And have to find your japa beads?
And wake up in the morning before the
Sun peeks through the trees.

Would you sing the songs you always sing,
And read the books you read?
And let him know the things on which
Your mind and spirit feed?

Would Prabhupada be invited,
Everywhere you planned to go?
Or, would you, maybe, change your plans,
Just for a day or so?

Would you be glad to have him meet,
Your very closest friends?
Or would you hope they'd stay away,
Until his visit ends?

I wonder if Prabhupada spent,
A day or two with you,
Would you go right on doing,
The things you always do?

Would you go right on saying
The things you always say?
Would life for you continue,
As it does from day to day?

Would you be glad to have him stay,
Forever on and on?
Or would you sigh with great relief,
When finally he had gone?

[ Revised version, November, 2011 ]

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Waiting for Your causeless mercy

“‘My dear Lord, one who constantly waits for Your causeless mercy to be bestowed upon him and who goes on suffering the reactions of his past misdeeds, offering You respectful obeisances from the core of his heart, is surely eligible for liberation, for it has become his rightful claim.’ (SB#10.14.8)"
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Jaya Radha Madhava-HH Lokanath Swami

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Jaya Radha Madhava!!!

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Receiving Mercy: Inquiries Into the Absolute, Digest 362



Digest 362: November 28th, 2011. Answers by His Holiness Romapada Swami
Maharaja


Receiving Mercy
```````````````

738)As I meditate on the process of receiving mercy from the disciplic
succession and receiving the Holy Name, I realize that I am not certain
what it means to receive. May I please request your explanation for the
same?

What does it mean to receive the love Guru and Krishna are giving? How do I
know if I am receiving it, and the mood in which I am doing? What does it
mean to receive the Pure Holy name?


Answer: Krishna is equal to everyone (samo 'ham sarva bhutesu) - just like
a cloud which pours water all over, regardless of whether it is rock or
land or sea. In turn, a fertile land becomes nourished, whereas some other
places remain barren. The difference is due to the quality or capacity of
the receptacle. In the same way, those who keep their heart fertile by
cultivating proper submission, service attitude etc are able to receive
mercy and benefit from it. Mercy is effective in such a fertile heart.

Although the Holy Name is freely available to everyone, one can receive the
Holy Name by a humble, prayerful or petitioning/begging mood only. Although
the Lord is equal to all, the relationship is reciprocal. The more a living
entity anticipates and reciprocates with the Lord's mercy, the more one
receives of the mercy.

Another example: The sun rays are open to everyone, and sometimes even
stones become valuable by utilizing it, but some prefer to remain in
darkness. Similarly even if one lacks good qualities, if somehow or other
one places oneself before Krishna with a favorable attitude, one is sure to
benefit sooner or later.



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Without good qualifications, one cannot be a pure devotee - Bhagavad-gita As It Is | Part [BG.12.19]

 
Bhagavad-gita As It Is | Part [BG.12.19]
 
TEXTS 18-19:
 
samah satrau ca mitre ca
tatha manapamanayoh
sitoshna-sukha-duhkheshu
samah sanga-vivarjitah
 
 
 
tulya-ninda-stutir mauni
santushto yena kenacit
aniketah sthira-matir
bhaktiman me priyo narah
 
TRANSLATION:
 
One who is equal to friends and enemies, who is equipoised in honor and dishonor, heat and cold, happiness and distress, fame and infamy, who is always free from contaminating association, always silent and satisfied with anything, who doesn't care for any residence, who is fixed in knowledge and who is engaged in devotional service—such a person is very dear to Me.
 
 
PURPORT:
 
A devotee is always free from all bad association. Sometimes one is praised and sometimes one is defamed; that is the nature of human society. But a devotee is always transcendental to artificial fame and infamy, distress or happiness. He is very patient. He does not speak of anything but the topics about Krishna; therefore he is called silent. Silent does not mean that one should not speak; silent means that one should not speak nonsense. One should speak only of essentials, and the most essential speech for the devotee is to speak for the sake of the Supreme Lord. A devotee is happy in all conditions; sometimes he may get very palatable foodstuffs, sometimes not, but he is satisfied. Nor does he care for any residential facility. He may sometimes live underneath a tree, and he may sometimes live in a very palatial building; he is attracted to neither. He is called fixed because he is fixed in his determination and knowledge. We may find some repetition in the descriptions of the qualifications of a devotee, but this is just to emphasize the fact that a devotee must acquire all these qualifications. Without good qualifications, one cannot be a pure devotee. Harav abhaktasya kuto mahad-gunah: one who is not a devotee has no good qualification. One who wants to be recognized as a devotee should develop the good qualifications. Of course he does not extraneously endeavor to acquire these qualifications, but engagement in Krishna consciousness and devotional service automatically helps him develop them. 
 
Translation and commentary by His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
 
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Beauty of the Spiritual World

 
 

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Krishna is extremely beautiful. It is a kind of beauty that reflects this purity. Generally speaking, beauty suggests purity. Even in the story of Putana who was a witch. Putana disguised herself as an extremely beautiful….almost like a goddess, and she just could do anything! She was so beautiful that everyone said:
"Oh, she must be a great personality!"

So even in this world, we associate beauty with a noble character. Of course, we see that Dasaratha got a little bit disillusioned with his beautiful Kaikeyi. Although she was beautiful on the outside, but she showed some envy in her character, that he was not expecting and it broke his heart.

So in the material world beauty is not always representing purity! But in the spiritual world it does, and therefore the beauty of the spiritual world is of another nature. So when we see Krishna's whole appearance, it is extremely beautiful and at the same time it is reflecting His noble character. It's different then the cold beauty of some sort of professional blonde who is being paid for endless photos and posing with different smiles and it looks like, she's seen it all, done it all, and heard it all and knows it all…..and lost her innocence.
So in Krishna there is innocence and there is purity, because there is no hidden agenda in Krishna's character. Krishna is a pure well wisher of all living beings, and His only interest is the wellbeing of all!

Anyone who is below the platform of the love of God is kind of living a ghostly existence…..a reduced existence. An existence of being a shadow of one's true self. When we come to the material world then gradually we become covered over, and the finer, deeper spiritual sentence of selfless love is disappearing! And all that we display in this world is the dim reflection of the original spiritual love, and here the love is very selfish:
"What am I getting in this relationship of love?"

Whereas in the spiritual world we are seeing complete selflessness, and we see complete dedication for the welfare of other! We see that all the devotees are just giving everything, and sacrificing everything for the pleasure of Krishna! So the spiritual world has many wonderful qualities and therefore is very attractive!

HH Kadamba Kanana Swami, Radhadesh, Belgium, 2011Lecture – BG.15.3-4
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Offenses at the Lotus Feet of Vaisnavas

 
 

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Offenses committed at the lotus feet of Vaishnavas, the Devotees, distance one from devotional service to the Supreme Lord. But in a higher sense it means to be removed from the service of Sri Radha. All divine service to Krishna is being conducted under her direction. To offend her servitors is to make one unfit for her divine service. The whole aim of Krishna consciousness is radha-dasyam, the divine service of Sri Radha, and offenses at the lotus feet of Vaishnavas make one unfit for such service.

The Lord is overly protective of his devotees (bhakta-vatsala ). He cannot tolerate any offenses against them. They have bhakti (devotion), and they can awaken it within us. Bhakti is the sole means to attract Krishna, who is a slave of devotion. The same is true of Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu. The Caitanya-Bhagavata states:

A person can attain the shelter of Mahaprabhu only by the grace of a higher Vaishnava. Religious practices and even chanting the Holy Name without devotion is useless.

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Prabhupada writes in his commentary:
Without developing a spirit of service, chanting the Holy Name is vain. Real devotion can only be cultivated when one receives the blessings of an unalloyed devotee.

Bhakti means devotion. Vrndavana dasa Thakur says:
If a person commits an offense at the lotus feet of a Vaishnava, even though he may have received Krishna's mercy, he will never attain divine love, prema. (Chaitanya-bhagavata Madhya-lila 22.8)

Srila Prabhupada writes:
Even if one is a Vaishnava, if he commits offenses to the Holy Name, he becomes unfit to render pure devotion. Although it may appear that he is still being shown favor by the Lord as he continues to make a show of chanting without difficulty, the Lord is actually very displeased with him because of his antagonism toward devotees. Therefore, to give up nama-aparadha we must first give up sadhu-ninda or finding fault with devotees.
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Being Peaceful even in Greatest Calamities

 
 

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(Above: Prahalad Maharaj undisturbed amidst the greatest calamity as he is always fixed up in Krsna Consciousness and dependant on the Lord)

Kṛṣṇa is not different from His words. That is absolute. What Kṛṣṇa said five thousand years ago, if you catch up those words again you're immediately connected with Kṛṣṇa, immediately. This is the process. Just see Arjuna. He says, evaṁ cintayato jiṣṇoḥ kṛṣṇa-pāda-saroruham. When he began to think of Kṛṣṇa and His instruction as..., in the battlefield, immediately he become śānta, peaceful. Immediately pacified. This is the process. We have got intimate relationship with Kṛṣṇa, eternally. It is not artificial. Therefore if you keep ourself always connected with Kṛṣṇa, there will be no more disturbance. Peaceful. Yaṁ labdhvā cāparaṁ lābhaṁ manyate nādhikaṁ tataḥ. If you get that position, then that is the highest benefit, highest gain, yaṁ labdhvā ca, then you will not desire for any other gain. You'll perceive that I have got the highest gain. Yaṁ labdhvā cāparaṁ lābhaṁ manyate nādhikaṁ tataḥ, yasmin sthitaḥ... And if you keep yourself fixed up in that position, then guruṇāpi duḥkhena na (Bg. 6.20-23), even the heaviest type of calamities, you'll not be disturbed. That is peace. That is peace. Not that little pinching, you're disturbed. If you're actually fixed up in Kṛṣṇa consciousness, you'll not be disturbed in the greatest form of dangerous condition. That is the perfection of Kṛṣṇa consciousness.

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Story of Faith


Story of Faith



There was a king named Jayamal. Jayamal had intense faith in Lord Krishna. He never missed a single day spending in devotion and rituals performed through love towards his deity Shyamsundar (Black beauty). He worshiped Lord Krishna as Shyamsunder.

Although a king, with many duties towards the kingdom and the people of his kingdom. His faith was great. He spent the time in devotion and worship from early morning till midday. He would not leave the sacred shrine, where he spent the time in devotion, even if it meant losing his kingdom and all the wealth.

There are always people taking the devotion towards God as a weakness. So knowing that the king spends half the earlier day in devotion, a neighboring king decided to attack his kingdom in the early hours of the day and capture it the easy way. It was an easy meal for him. Thus, one early morning, an attack was made on king Jayamal's kingdom. All with the bright hopes of acquiring a new kingdom.

The soldier's of Jayamal had no other option but to watch the enemy soldiers surround the kingdom with ease. They could not fight without their king's order.

The news of the arrival of the enemy troops reached the mother of King Jayamal. She rushed to the king and asked him to take immediate steps. To go and fight the battle. Jayamal the devotee was unperturbed. Bursting with faith he said , "Why should I worry if Shyamsunder decided to take back the kingdom He gave me?". "On the other hand if He does not want the kingdom to be loosed, nothing on the earth can take it away."

Outside the temple, Shyamsunder took the horse of the king from the stable. Riding the horse and fully armed, He single handed attacked the enemy troops. There was no way the enemies could compete the blue warrior. Except the leader all were reduced to corpses. Shyamsunder after doing what had to be done, rode back to the temple where the king used to pray, tied the horse to the tree and vanished.

The king after the worship came out. He was a little down on leaving the temple, he thought Shyamsunder must have decided that he should no longer hold the kingdom. He sees his horse panting with heavy breath, tied under the tree, right outside the temple. "Who has been riding my horse and brought it here?" he demanded. "How can anybody even think of sitting on my cherished horse leave aside riding him?"

None of the officers of the king had the answer. They were all unaware of what had happened. Nevertheless the king in the pensive mood rode his horse and galloped along with the little army towards the battle field. There was no time for any investigation.

On reaching the battlefield he saw the entire enemy troop, but the leader, dead.The leader, the sole survivor, felt at his feet. He said, "I am so sorry to attack you, sir." "You have a warrior no one on earth can defeat." "Please tell me a little more about your blue warrior, your friend." "He has cast a spell on my heart and soul."

The king realized that it was Shyamsunder who rode his horse and cleared the enemies army. The enemy king realized it too and worshiped and begged Jaymal for acquiring the grace of his God. The attraction of wealth and kingdom was no more in his system. With Jayamals blessings he too received the grace of Shyamsunder, Krishna


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Radhe Radhe Barsane Wale Radhe

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Gopi Gita

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Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 10.31.9

tava kathāmṛtaḿ tapta-jīvanaḿ
kavibhir īḍitaḿ kalmaṣāpaham
śravaṇa-mańgalaḿ śrīmad ātataḿ
bhuvi gṛṇanti ye bhūri- janāḥ
SYNONYMS
tava — Your; kathā-amṛtam — the nectar of words; tapta-jīvanam — life for those aggrieved in the material world; kavibhiḥ — by great thinkers; īḍitam — described; kalmaṣa-apaham — that which drives away sinful reactions; śravaṇa-mańgalam — giving spiritual benefit when heard; śṛīmat — filled with spiritual power; ātatam — broadcast all over the world; bhuviin the material world; gṛṇanti — chant and spread; ye — those who; bhūri-dāḥ — most beneficent; janāḥ — persons.
TRANSLATION
The nectar of Your words and the descriptions of Your activities are the life and soul of those suffering in this material world. These narrations, transmitted by learned sages, eradicate one's sinful reactions and bestow good fortune upon whoever hears them. These narrations are broadcast all over the world and are filled with spiritual power. Certainly those who spread the message of Godhead are most munificent.
PURPORT
King Pratāparudra recited this verse to Śrī Caitanya Mahāprabhu during Lord Jagannātha's Ratha-yātrā festival. While the Lord was resting in a garden, King Pratāparudra humbly entered and began massaging His legs and lotus feet. Then the King recited the Thirty-first Chapter of the Tenth Canto of the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam, the songs of the gopīs. The Caitanya-caritāmṛta relates that when Lord Caitanya heard this verse, beginning tava kathāmṛtam, He immediately arose in ecstatic love and embraced King Pratāparudra. The incident is described in detail in the Caitanya-caritāmṛta (Madhya 14.4-18), and in his edition Śrīla Prabhupāda has given extensive commentary on it.

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