"Haunted Enjoyment" Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.63 Vrndavana, August 30, 1975 download  flash player   Take a test Prabhupada: tan-nimitta-smara-vyaja graha-grasto vicetasah tam eva manasa dhyayan sva-dharmad virarama ha  [SB 6.1.63] So the one word is very significant in this connection: graha-grasto vicetasah. Graha-grasto means ghostly haunted or influenced by bad star, graha-grasto. Sometimes we become... We are always graha-grasto in this material world. It is said by some Vaisnava poet, pisaci paile yena mati-cchana haya mayar grasta jivera sei dasa upajaya. Pisaci, ghostly haunted or inspired by the witches, when one becomes so, mati-cchana, he becomes bewildered and his intelligence becomes scattered. Mati-cchana. That is the condition of all living entities within this material world in different degrees. Everyone is ghostly haunted. And what is that ghostly haunted? That ghostly haunted, tan-nimitta-smara-vyaja. This Ajamila had seen one sudra and one sudrani were embracing, kissing, laughing, enjoying in lusty affairs. So he became tan-nimitta. By seeing these activities of the sudra and the sudrani, naturally the lusty desire is there, which I explained yesterday. It is called hrd-roga-kama. This kama, lusty desire, is a heart disease. So he was infected by the heart disease by seeing the scene, that one woman and man is embracing kissing, immediately. So the nature's law is so nice or so perfect that by seeing only, you will be infected, by seeing only. Prakrteh kriyamanani gunaih karmani sarvasah [Bg. 3.27]. We are put into such a position that every moment we are being affected by the three modes of material nature. Prakrteh kriyamanani. The prakrti, the nature, is working so expertly. Prakrteh kriyamanani. And karanam guna-sango 'sya sad-asad-yoni-janmasu [Bg. 13.22]. In this way our transmigration from one body to another, tatha dehantara-praptih [Bg. 2.13], it is due to this infection of contacting different material modes of nature. The whole world is going on. So therefore our business of human life is how to protect ourself from this infection of material nature. That should be the aim of human life, not that allow us to be infected more and more and become implicated in the cycle of birth and death, sometimes lower, sometimes higher. This is not intelligence. The intelligence is how to get out of it. In the lower animal forms of life the nature takes care. Jalaja nava-laksani sthavara laksa-vimsati, krmayo rudra-sankhyakah. From the aquatics to the plant life, then insect life, then bird life, then beast life, then we come to the human life. And that is also When we come to the civilized life we should not waste our time like animals or lower creatures. Therefore another important thing is that those who are born in India, Bharatabhumi, they are to be considered the topmost. Therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu has said, bharata-bhumite manusya-janma haile jara janma sarthaka kari kara para-upakara  [Cc. Adi 9.41] This is Caitanya Mahaprabhu's mission. Those who have taken birth in India, Bharatabhumi, they should make their life perfect by understanding the Vedic knowledge. And the Supreme Lord Krsna comes here to teach the Vedic knowledge. He left Bhagavad-gita. Then Vyasadeva developed the idea of Krsna consciousness from Bhagavad-gita, Vedanta-sutra, into Srimad Bhagavatam. Bhasyayam brahma-sutranam. So we have got this advantage, and we are giving up these advantages. First of all, the advantage is that we are born in India, and we have got the stock of knowledge left by great sages, rsis and the Supreme Personality of Godhead. And you are not taking advantage of it. How much foolish we are becoming by so-called education, we should understand that. It is graha-grasta. We are thinking that... Our leaders are thinking that India, becoming too much religiously conscious, they have been poverty-stricken. No. That is not the fact. By Krsna's desire, by Krsna's will, everyone is provided. In the Vedas it is said, yo eko bahunam vidadhati kaman. The Supreme Lord is quite competent to provide, to supply the necessities of life to millions and millions of living entities. There is no question of scarcity of supply. Eko yo bahunam vidadhati kaman. In the forest there are millions of elephants. Who is supplying them food? Krsna is supplying. So there is no question of overpopulation. Overpopulation, there is no question of. If Krsna has overpopulation, He is competent to supply them food. But it is the nature's restriction. When we become godless, the nature's trouble will be there. Daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya [Bg. 7.14]. Just like the flood is going on in many parts of the world. So this is due to our sinful life. Nature is punishing. Adhidaivika. You cannot control. Nature will punish. Why nature is punishing? Because we are godless. That is nature's business. The more we become godless, the more we'll be punished by the laws of nature. Therefore in the Bhagavad-gita it is said, daivi hy esa gunamayi mama maya duratyaya. You cannot surpass. You make many scientific plans to overcome -- it is not possible. Then how it is possible? Mam eva ye prapadyante mayam etam taranti. Unless you surrender to Krsna That is your business. Therefore Krsna openly says, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. The Ajamila, he was brahmana, undoubtedly, but he fell a victim to maya. But you know the story of Haridasa. He was young man at that time, and one man instigated a prostitute, young prostitute, to deviate him, but she was unable. On the other hand, the prostitute became a Vaisnavi. This is the difference between a devotee and a nondevotee. A nondevotee cannot surpass the stringent laws of material nature. But a devotee can do that because a devotee is not affected by the influence of material nature. It is stated in the Bhagavad-gita that, mam cavyabhicarini bhakti-yogena yah sevate sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate  [Bg. 14.26] "Anyone who is strictly engaged in devotional service, he surpasses the influence of the laws of material..." Sa gunan samatitya etan. He can surpass. Sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate. This is the only way. Otherwise how these European and American boys and girls, they are living strictly under regulative principle -- no illicit sex, no meat-eating, no intoxication up to drinking tea, and no gambling? How they can surpass them? It is possible when one is a devotee, pure devotee. That is possible. So this is the example. The Ajamila was trained up as a nice brahmana, but he was not still expert to become Vaisnava. Therefore... But still, the seed of Vaisnavism was there because a brahmana is trained up how to worship Visnu, how to worship Narayana. That is essential. So this boy was also trained up how to worship Narayana, Visnu. And it was beneficially at the last stage of his life. Svalpam apy asya dharmasya trayate mahato bhayat. Even if you practice little of devotional service, it can save you from the greatest danger of life. That actually happened in the life of Ajamila. So tan-nimitta. So in this age, especially Kali-yuga, it is very, very difficult to save oneself from these infections of life. We have got already... We have come to this material world to fulfill our lusty desires. Naturally whenever there is any lusty activities, our heart disease immediately becomes impeted, and the same thing happened to Ajamila. And graha-grasto vicetasah. Graha-grasta. Just like when we are haunted by ghost -- a ghost captures, then vicetasah, we are lost, lost of our our consciousness, our intelligence -- he became like that. Tam eva manasa dhyayan. Then, instead of meditating on Krsna, he began to meditate on the lusty affairs of the sudra and the sudrani. Therefore, in the Kali-yuga the so-called meditation is a farce. Because we are always seeing these lusty affairs before our eyes, naturally when we close our eyes and meditate, instead of thinking of Krsna or Visnu, we shall think of woman and other things. Therefore it is not possible. In the Kali-yuga it is not possible. Krte yad dhyayato visnum [SB 12.3.52]. In the Satya-yuga it was possible, meditation on Visnu, not on other things. But now, in this Kali-yuga, we are infected with so many lusty desires that it is not possible. Therefore sastra said, krte yad dhyayato visnum tretayam majato makhaih. You can realize Visnu because Visnu is the ultimate goal of life. But we do not know it. Na te viduh svartha-gatim hi visnum [SB 7.5.31]. So that Visnu meditation was possible in the krte, in the Satya-yuga, when a man used to live for hundred thousands of years. And then reduce. The next age it is ten thousand of years. Then again, in the next age, it is one thousands of years. And now it is reduced to one hundred years. So therefore it is said that, krte yad dhyayato visnum tretayam majato makhaih dvapare paricaryayam kalau tad dhari-kirtanat  [SB 12.3.52] In the Kali-yuga you perform perfect meditation by loudly chanting, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, Hare Hare/ Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare. This is the recommendation of the sastra -- not only one, but many sastras. In the Bhagavata also it is said, kaler dosa-nidhe rajan asti hy eko mahan gunah kirtanad eva krsnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet  [SB 12.3.51] So there are dangers in this material world. It is very dangerous place, padam padam yad vipadam [SB 10.14.58], every step, not only spiritually, materially also. Suppose you are out of this temple, there is every chance you may be dashed by a motorcar and die. So it is dangerous. Padam padam yad vipadam. So our motive of life should be how to get out of this dangerous position of life. How to get out of it, that should be the aim, not that to become more and more implicated in with this dangerous situation of life. That is not intelligence. The intelligence is how to get out of it. That is this movement, Krsna consciousness movement, how to get out of this dangerous position and go back to home, back to Godhead -- this is the mission. It is not that by spiritual advancement one gets material facilities to increase the income and increase the standard of sense enjoyment. This is karma-kandiya-vicara karma, to get the resultant action of our fruitive activities. And that is not very... They are called mudha. Those who are engaged in karma-kandiya entanglement, they are called mudha. Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura has commented on the word mudha described in the Srimad Bhagavad-gita. The mudha means karmis. Karmis, they work day, day and night, very hard. What is their aim? The aim is sense gratification. That is done by animals like dogs and hogs and asses. Nayam deho deha-bhajam nrloke kastan kaman arhate vid-bhujam ye [SB 5.5.1]. This is the recommendation, that this life, human life, ayam deha, nrloke, in this Everyone has got a material body, but one who has got a material body in the human society, nrloke Kastan kaman na arhati. To work so hard simply to satisfy the senses is not desirable. So modern civilization means that increase the activities of sense gratification. And especially... Of course in India, still there are peaceful land. But in the Western countries, from five o'clock in the morning we see on the streets thousands and thousands of motorcars. They are going to work, thousands and thousands. And they will come at night. This has begun also in India. We see in big, big cities like Calcutta and Bombay, they are coming early in the morning from home, and going, night, going at home at night, ten o'clock, eleven o'clock, and then sleep for two or three hours and again go to work. So there is a story. Just like a little child, because when his father comes back, he is asleep, and when the father goes out of home, he is asleep. So one night he saw one man is lying there. So he is asking his mother, "Who is this man? Who is this man?" Actually this is the position, that we are working day and... Bombay and Calcutta we have seen that they are hanging on the, what is called, local trains, and there are sometimes accidents. So in this way, gradually, we are coming to very dangerous, I mean to say, pattern of living condition with the age, with the advancement of this age of Kali. And it is said that for earning our bread we have to work like an ass in this Kali-yuga. This is not civilization. The civilization is... That is really Vedic civilization, that ayam deha. Nayam deha nrloke kastan kaman. We should make our life so simple and easy that we can get our necessities of life without any hard labor and save time to advance in Krsna consciousness. That is perfect civilization. This is not perfect civilization. There is every chance of being influenced by these lusty desires, and that is going on, especially in the Western country. They lusty for fulfilling these lusty desires there are so many clubs at night, nightclubs, bottomless and topless and so many advertisements. This is not civilization. Civilization is peaceful life, and we should be satisfied in simple mode of life and always think of Krsna. Therefore Vrndavana life is like that, Vrndavana life, especially those who are engaged in devotional service. So we have opened this temple to give facility to the elderly section of the human being to come and live with us. We invite all elderly persons, especially retired person. They should come and live with us. We have got a nice guesthouse, and if required, we can construct many other guesthouses. At least those are retired Everyone should retire after fiftieth year. That is the injunction of the sastras, that pancasordhvam varam vrajet. After fifty years one should give up family life and vanam vrajet. Pancasordhvam vanam. Vanam means Vrndavana. Vanam vrajet. Similarly, Prahlada Maharaja has advised, tat sadhu manye asura-varya dehinam sada samudvigna-dhiyam asad-grahat hitvatma-ghatam grham andha-kupam vanam gato yad dharim asrayeta  [SB 7.5.5] Vanam gato. One should go in the vana, in Vrndavana. Then what to do there? Harim asrayeta. Otherwise, if we live in Vrndavana like monkeys and other animals, that will not be beneficial. Harim asrayeta. Come here, live here and take shelter of Hari. That is the ultimate goal. Therefore Hari personally says, Krsna, sarva-dharman parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja [Bg. 18.66]. Harim asrayeta. So we are not only inviting Indians throughout the whole world. Now we have got connection with the whole world. We invite everyone. At least after the age of fifty they should come here in Vrndavana. They should live peacefully and take shelter at the lotus feet of Krsna-Balarama and be happy in this life and get salvation in next life. Thank you very much. (end)   >>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.63 -- Vrndavana, August 30, 1975 HOME

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"Sexual Heart Disease" Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.61 Vrndavana, August 28, 1975 download  flash player   Take a test Prabhupada: drstva tam kama-liptena bahuna parirambhitam jagama hrc-chaya-vasam sahasaiva vimohitah  [SB 6.1.61] So in the morning we shall speak in Hindi for the foreign students. In the evening there will be Hindi. Morning, seven up to eight or little more, and similarly in the evening. So we are talking about Ajamila. He was a nice brahmana boy executing the duties of a brahmana, but one day, when he was passing, he saw one sudra and one sudrani embracing, kissing, talking, laughing -- all lusty affairs. So it is mentioned here, sudra. ekadasau vanam yatah pitr-sandesa-krd dvijah adaya tata avrttah phala-puspa-samit-kusan  [SB 6.1.58] Dadarsa kaminam kancic chudram. Sudram. This business on the public way, kissing, embracing, this is meant for the sudras. Therefore it is said, kalau sudra-sambhavah: "In the Kali-yuga the population is all sudra." There is no brahminical culture. Brahminical culture means sama, dama, controlling the mind, controlling the senses. A real brahmana will never agree to embrace the opposite sex in public way. No. That is not brahmana's business. He has been trained up how to become controller of the mind, controller of the senses. That is the first business of a brahmana. Sama, dama, satyam. He is truthful, saucam, clean, thrice taking bath. So you should always... You are given the chance of becoming brahmana. You should not become again sudras or mlecchas or candalas. Be careful. This is brahmana business. If we again come back to candalas or sud... Candala means less than the sudras. Even sudras, they eat meat under control. But candalas, they eat meat without any control. So just like in the Vedic society, although there are meat-eaters, they would eat meat after offering sacrifice to Goddess Kali. Restriction. Restriction. Because if you eat meat from the slaughterhouse there is no restriction. You can go and purchase at any time. But if you follow the scriptural regulation, they say, "Yes..." It is restriction. It is indirectly saying, "Don't eat," but because this less intelligent person will not be able to understand, therefore they are given some permission under certain restriction. This is restriction, that "If you want to eat meat, then you must offer sacrifice to Goddess Kali and then you can." And the Goddess Kali is worshiped once in a month. That means by restriction he will come to his senses; he will give it up. So sudra, up to sudra, there is possibility of raising him. Although he can see ideal character, it is not that anyone be ideal character like a brahmana. That is not possible. But still, in the society there must be an ideal person who is actually brahmana. So sudra... This kind of business on the public street... Just like cats and dogs, they have sex pleasure without any shame on the street. Similarly, the sudras, they embrace the opposite sex in the public street, and sometimes they have got sex also. I have seen in the Western countries -- without any shame... So he saw, this brahmana boy. The brahmana boy saw. He is young man. Although he is qualified with the brahmana... Not exactly qualified; otherwise he would not have fallen. He was on the neophyte stage. Therefore we restrict, "No illicit sex." Completely forbidden. Otherwise it will be very difficult to keep oneself in the brahminical standard and make spiritual progress. Without being in the platform of brahmana, you cannot make any spiritual progress. That is not... A sudra, a vaisya... But they can be trained up. Therefore Krsna said, mam hi partha vyapasritya ye 'pi syuh papa-yonayah striyo sudras tatha vaisyas te 'pi yanti param gatim  [Bg. 9.32] In Krsna consciousness, a sudra, a candala, the lowborn, he can be elevated to the highest stage of Vaisnava. Vaisnava is higher stage than brahmana. So this boy, Ajamila, he was passing, he saw that the sudra was embracing another sudrani. Drstva tam kama-liptena. When he saw that this man and woman is embraced with one another with lusty desire... Embracing woman or man, this is kama, lust. There is no question of any other thing. Kama-liptena. Drstva tam kama-liptena bahuna. The man was embracing the woman, and the woman was embracing, pari-liptena, very closely attached, and everything was going on. Then... We have got lusty desires. Everyone's heart... Hrd-roga-kama. The material world means there is a heart disease which is called kama, hrd-roga-kama. So hrc-chaya-avasam. If we... This is called impetus. If I see one engaged in lusty or sex affairs, naturally my sex desire also becomes awakened. Even though I am trying to control in the neophyte stage, still, if I see in my front something, lusty affairs, naturally I will be inclined to such. Therefore it is called avasam. He was student, brahmacari, practicing sama, dama, satyam, saucam. He was not very old man; he was young man. But he could not control. Therefore it is said hrc-chaya-avasam. Avasam sahasaiva: "all of a sudden," vimohitam, "he became very much attracted." So this is the social condition. If in society we have no restriction, then naturally those young boys and girls, they will be inclined. And as soon as one is sexually inclined, he forgets all other culture and gradually becomes down fallen, as you will see from the life of Ajamila. Although he was trained up... So similarly, this is a warning to our students that they are learning how to become Krsna conscious. It is very difficult job. To become Krsna conscious is not very easy thing. But by the grace of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, we are trying to teach that, and it is becoming effective. Otherwise how you all European and Americans can give up these four sinful activities? So try to preserve. And it can be preserved only by remaining in the devotional service. It can be. Sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate [Bg. 14.26]. mam ca vyabhicarini bhakti-yogena ya sevate sa gunan samatityaitan brahma-bhuyaya kalpate  [Bg. 14.26] As soon as you come on the platform of Brahman, brahma-bhutah prasannatma na socati na kanksati [Bg. 18.54], then you will be able to. Otherwise you will not be able to. If you don't come on the transcendental platform, then you will not be able to. So we have to stick to these principles to keep ourselves on the transcendental platform, rising early in the morning, offer mangala arati, then gradually, one after another, attending class, guru-puja, and so on, so on. Up to till you go to bed, you should always be engaged. Then you will be above these three gunas. Just like this boy, Ajamila. He is attracted because all of a sudden he fell down on the platform of passion. There are three platforms: sattvic, rajasic, tamasic. So if you keep yourself on the sattvic platform, there is also chance to falling down on the passion and ignorance. But if you keep yourself in the suddha-sattva platform... Suddha-sattva platform means devotional service. Sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam. Suddha platform means... That is called vasudeva. As Vasudeva can beget a child whose name is Krsna, similarly, if you keep yourself on the vasudeva platform, sattvam visuddham vasudeva-sabditam, then Krsna will take birth. Krsna will take birth. So our these rules and regulation, restriction, means to keep one on the vasudeva platform. We should remember always that. And if you keep yourself on vasudeva platform, these things will not entice you. Otherwise we shall be enticed and fallen down. Agama hrc-chaya-vasam sahasaiva vimohitah. Sometimes we go to hear or see rasa-lila. But unless we are advanced in spiritual consciousness, this hearing of or seeing some rasa-lila, sometimes it brings us down. If one is actually seeing rasa-lila, the result will be hrd-roga-kamam apahinoty acirena dhirah. This is the injunction in the Srimad Bhagavatam. If one has actually heard from a realized person about vikriditam idam vraja-vadhubhir visnoh, Visnu and vraja-vadhu, the gopis, vikrtam, their lila, their pastime Sraddhanvita anusrnuyad atha varnayed yah. One who is actually advanced in spiritual consciousness, sraddhanvita, anusrnuyat, and hears from the realized person -- anu, anu means parampara, not from ordinary person, professional reciter, but from a realized person -- the result will be hrd-roga-kamam apahinoti. Then the, our natural lusty desires will disappear. That is the result. But in spite of disappearing our, this lusty desire, if we increase our lusty desire, that means we are spoiling our life. Therefore it is forbidden that neophyte students, they should not indulge in these affairs of rasa-lila. You should be very careful. People are very much accustomed to see rasa-lila in Vrndavana. Maybe they are advanced, but the test is whether he has given up his lusty desire. That is the test. If he has given up, then, after seeing rasa-lila, he should not have returned to home. My Guru Maharaja used to say, "Do not go to Vrndavana with return ticket." So therefore it is very confidential. There are ten cantos in Bhagavatam. Nine cantos are devoted to understand Krsna, nine cantos. Then tenth canto begins. Then Krsna's birth and pastimes are mentioned there. So we should not jump over the tenth canto all of a sudden. People are very much anxious to jump over the tenth canto. No. Tenth canto is the mukharavinda. It is the face of Krsna, smiling. But Krsna worship begins from the lotus feet of Krsna. Nobody offers flowers and tulasi on the face of Krsna. They offer on the feet. That is the beginning, the first and second canto of Srimad Bhagavatam, two lotus feet. So we have to go by and by. And when we are actually experienced devotional servant, then you try to understand the tenth canto. This is the way. Otherwise there may be fall down, as this Ajamila fell down. He was neophyte, and as soon as he saw the sudra and sudrani embracing, he became victmized. So we should be very... Brahmacari, there are so many restrictions. Even to see woman -- "A beautiful woman is going, let me see" -- that is also forbidden. That is also subtle sex enjoyment. Gross and subtle, there are so many subtle sex enjoyments -- to think of woman, to see a beautiful woman going on the street, or to talk about woman, to read about woman. There are eight kinds of subtle sexual intercourse. So it is restricted. But in the Kali-yuga it is very difficult to follow all the rules and regulation. One is not trained up. Even up to ripe old age, one becomes attracted by beautiful women. Especially in the Western countries. I have seen in Paris, old man, seventy-five years old, eighty years old, they are going to the brothel. They are going to the night club. They are purchasing ticket to enter into the club-fifty dollars. Then they have to pay for the woman and wine and everything. In this way... So hrd-roga-kama, this hrd-roga, hrc-chaya, is a heart disease. It is very, very difficult to avoid unless one is fully Krsna conscious. And that is stated by Yamunacarya: yadavadhi mama cettah krsna-padaravinde nava-nava-rasa-dhamany udyatam rantum asit tadavadhi bata nari-sangame smaryamane bhavati mukha-vikarah sustu nisthivanam ca This is the test. Yadavadhi krsna-padaravinde. "Since I have learned how to take transcendental bliss from the lotus feet of Krsna..." He is explaining. He was an emperor. He had ample opportunity of enjoyment, material enjoyment. He was enjoying it. But he said, "Since I have become Krsna conscious and I am taking pleasure in Krsna consciousness, from that time," bata nari-sangame smaryamane, "whenever I think of enjoying with woman, I spite on it." This is the test. This is the test, how I am becoming advanced. You do not require any certificate from anyone. You can learn yourself. Just like when you are eating, you do not require any certificate from others, "Whether I am feeling all right?" Eating means you are hungry, so if you eat, you will feel satisfied. Your hunger will be satisfied. You will be getting strength. These are the symptoms that have eaten. Similarly, when you'll no longer be attracted by this sex desire, then you should understand that "I am now making progress in Krsna consciousness." This is the test. So this boy became victimized. Although he was under training, he was not completely fit. Therefore he fell victimized by seeing this affair, lusty affairs. So at that time might be one or two cases. Now the whole world is full with all of these lusty desires, especially in the Western country. Here also now it has come. No more they are following the Vedic principles. But it is not so deteriorated as in the Western countries, and so we should be very, very careful. Not only... Simply becoming careful will not. We must advance in Krsna consciousness, and that is very easily done by chanting Hare Krsna mantra. If you keep yourself always engaged in chanting Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Krsna Krsna, then it will be... Ceto-darpana-marjanam [Cc. Antya 20.12]. This is hrc-chaya-vasam. The lusty desire is a disease of the heart. It is... Practically it has no value. So therefore Caitanya Mahaprabhu says, ceto-darpana-marjanam. They cleanse the heart with all dirty things. Ceto-darpana-marjanam. How? Param vijayate sri-krsna-sankirtanam. This is confirmed in Bhagavatam, kirtanad eva krsnasya mukta-sangah param vrajet [SB 12.3.51] Simply by chanting, you can keep. If you follow the rules and regulation and chanting, then you will not be victimized. You'll make your progress without any fear. Thank you very much. Hare Krsna. (end)   >>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.61 -- Vrndavana, August 28, 1975 HOME

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Srila Prabhupada speaks on: Sexual Heart Disease

Question: Why do we chant 16 rounds, what is special about this number?

Srila Guru Maharaj: Actually in some places, in the Vedas, it is said that if you chant 100,000 names of Krsna, that is enough to get you back to the spiritual world. So the number is 100,000 which should be 64 rounds. But then Prabhupada, when he came to the west, he found that the people are active and so many requirements, he said that if we do a regular practice of Bhakti yoga, of service, so that more or less we are always staying in the yoga environment, then even 16 rounds should be enough. So then he would guarantee us to get back to Godhead in this one lifetime, to get back to the spiritual world.

We are all spiritual in nature and we are taking so many births here in the material world. To end the cycle of repeated birth and death, that requires some spiritual focus. So he is saying that if you do 16 and follow a very good lifestyle then you can get back in this one lifetime. He would promise that. But as Minister of Congregational Development and Community Development,  I am seeing people who are not living in temples, 99% of all our followers are practicing from home. So many people obviously they are not able to chant 16 rounds, some chant 8 rounds or 4 rounds. At least chant something that is a minimum, because that brings steadiness in your spiritual progress. It also helps you to control the mind and make a decision to do something and actually do it. One has to know what you can do as a regular thing, 1 round or 2 rounds or 4. It may not be guaranteed that you may go back to Godhead but maybe someone can go back to Godhead . But they have to start somewhere and later get taste when you chant more rounds. It is more of an experience. With the first 4 rounds you feel peaceful, the next 4-8 you start to get some energy and after the 8th to the 16th you actually get the spiritual taste in the mouth and heart and you start to develop a deeper spiritual reciprocation with the chanting, the living mantra. The mantras are living, they are spiritual, they are alive and dynamic.

I had a situation once where just as I was newly practicing; I was working outside in a restaurant.Although my parents and grandparents were very wealthy due to emergencies I was working in a restaurant. The person who was the cook there he suddenly fainted. So everybody there ran but didn't know how to revive him. That time I was already chanting and practicing Bhakti yoga. I didn't know what to do but I went over and just chanted Hare Krsna in his ear and then all of a sudden he started like shaking and his eyes opened and sat up. He looked around and he asked me 'What is it you chanted?I left my body and from Montreal reached Belgium. Somehow this astral body was out of my gross material body and when you chanted this Hare Krsna, at first I felt very far away.Then it got louder and louder there was reverse echo. It was not static, it was dynamic, it filled my whole system. It brought back my astral body to my gross body and then I came back to consciousness.' This was for me also  interesting, to know how this mantra is dynamic and how it increases in our consciousness and how it purifies our different emotions and thoughts.

So try to do your minimum chanting and that will build up. 16 rounds will amount to 10 million names in a year. Prabhupada's guru had also told his followers that those who are living as monks in the temple they were advised to do 64 rounds. But those who are going out and preaching and doing different activities, he said 16 will be enough. So Prabhupada has kept it at 16. 64 is pretty much out of the range. Just fix some minimum number.

HH Jayapataka Swami Srila Guru Maharaj

Atlanta, Georgia, September 2007

 

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Why do we chant 16 rounds, what is special about this number?