Krishna's Sense Gratification
"Krishna's Sense Gratification"Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.26
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Honolulu, May 26, 1976
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Prabhupada: So, Srimad-Bhagavatam, Sixth Canto, First Chapter, text number twenty-six. (chants verse responsively with devotees)
bhunjanah prapiban khadan
balakam sneha-yantritah
bhojayan payayan mudho
na vedagatam antakam
[SB 6.1.26]
So this is the general way of life. Everyone is engaged in these material activities, and the basic principle of material activity is grhastha, family life. Family life, according to Vedic system, or anywhere, is responsible life to maintain the wife, children. Everyone is engaged. They think this is the only duty. "To maintain the family, that is my duty. As comfortably as possible. That is my duty." One does not think that this kind of duty is performed even by animals. They have got also children, and they feed. What is the difference? Therefore here the word used is mudha. Mudha means ass. One who is engaged in such duties, bhunjanah prapiban khadan. Prapiban. Prapiban means drinking, and bhunjanah means eating. While eating, while drinking, khadan, while chewing, carva casya raja preya (?). There are four kinds of eatables. Sometimes we chew, sometimes we lick up, (Sanskrit) sometimes we swallow, and sometimes we drink. So there are four kinds of foodstuff. Therefore we sing catuh vidha sri-bhagavat-prasadat. Catuh vidha means four kinds. So we offer to the Deities so many foodstuffs within these four categories. Something is chewed, something is licked up, something is swallowed. In that way.
So bhunjanah prapiban khadan balakam sneha-yantritah. The father and mother takes care of the children, how to give them foodstuffs. We have seen mother Yasoda is feeding Krsna. Same thing. This is the difference. We are feeding ordinary child, which is done by cats and dogs also, but mother Yasoda is feeding Krsna. The same process. The process there is no difference, but one is the Krsna center and other is whimsical center. That is the difference. When it is Krsna-centered, then it is spiritual, and when it is whimsical centered, then it is material. There is no difference between material... This is the difference. There is... Just like lusty desires and love, pure love. What is the difference between lusty desires and pure love? Here we are mixing, man and woman, mixing with lusty desires, and Krsna is also mixing with the gopis. Superficially they look the same thing. Yet what is the difference? So this difference has been explained by the author of Caitanya-caritamrta, that what is the difference between lusty desires and love? That has been explained. He has said, atmendriya-priti-vancha-tare bali 'kama' [Cc. Adi 4.165], "When I want to satisfy my senses, that is kama." But krsnendriya-priti-iccha dhare 'prema' nama, "And when we want to satisfy the senses of Krsna, then it is love, prema." That is the difference. Here in this material world there is no love because the man and woman, they have no idea that "I mix with the man, the man who satisfies desires with me." No. "I will satisfy my desires." This is the basic principle. The man is thinking that "Mixing with this woman, I'll satisfy my sense desire," and woman is thinking that "By mixing with this man, I shall satisfy my desire." Therefore it is very prominent in the Western countries, as soon as there is difficulty in personal sense gratification, immediately divorce. This is the psychological, why so many divorces in this country. The root cause is that "As soon as I don't find satisfaction, then I don't want." That is stated in the Srimad-Bhagavatam: dam-patyam ratim eva hi. In this age, husband and wife means sex satisfaction, personal. There is no question of that "We shall live together; we shall satisfy Krsna by being trained up how to satisfy Krsna." That is Krsna consciousness movement. Don't do anything for your personal sense gratification. Do everything for Krsna's sense gratification.
Just like the gopis, they used to go to Krsna. These gopis, they were married, because in India twelve years, thirteen years girls are married still. I've told many incidences. So from childhood they are friends, small children, but the girls are married early, so they go to their husband's place, thirteen, fourteen years. But because they had, they prayed to Katyayani when they're not married, they prayed to Katyayani that "Krsna is so beautiful. Please give me Krsna as my husband." Krsna is all-attractive, so Krsna fulfilled their desire, and that is vastranam. Of course, these things are not to be publicly discussed, but still you are little interested in Krsna. So all the gopis, girls, before their marriage, they prayed to Katyayani that "You give me Krsna as my husband." So Krsna..., it is not possible socially, but Krsna makes such a plan that He accepted every one of them as His wife. That is vastrana-lila. Vastrana-lila, the girls were taking bath in the Yamuna, keeping their clothing, garments, on the shore. Still in India, especially in Punjab, the practice is that where the women take bath, strictly no man can go there because they put their clothings on the shore and they dip into the water naked. So this was being done, and Krsna took their clothings and got up on the tree. So they begged Krsna, their friend, "Krsna, this is very bad. Why You have taken away our..." "No, you beg the clothes with folded hands, then I shall give you." (laughter) So you have read this story, you do not require, but the idea is that "You wanted Me, all of you, as your husband. Now I'm fulfilling your desire. I'm seeing you naked." Because a woman can be naked only before the husband. No one else. This is chastity. A woman cannot be naked anywhere, just like in the club, naked dance. This is most abominable. Woman can be naked only before the husband. [break]
...brahmana. That will be explained. He was brahmana. He was well trained as a brahmana, but one day while he was coming home with the ingredients of worshiping the Deity, he saw one sudra embracing another sudra girl, embracing, kissing, because they have no shame. No brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya will do that. It is not etiquette. But because a sudra, now it is everywhere we can see, embracing, kissing, open to everyone. So young man, seeing this, how he can restrain, check his lusty desire? It is not possible. Kali-yuga is so fallen. If a young man sees another young man he's enjoying with another young girl, then naturally his lusty desires increases. So these things are forbidden therefore. Still in some places it is forbidden that you cannot... India this is strictly forbidden. There is no such thing in the public street a young man can embrace or kiss. No. That is not possible. Then it will be criminal. Neither a young boy can dare to speak with another young girl on the street. Still it is criminal. She'll begin immediately protest that is incivility.
So the whole civilization is how to restrict this sex desire. Because... Why restriction? Because the sex desire, sex life, will keep him within this material world in different bodies, either as human being or as animal or as bird or as insect -- so long there will be this sex desire. To become free, to become liberated means to become liberated from sex desire. That's all. This is the basic principle. Not that this tantra-yoga, how to increase sex desires. This is not civilization. Civilization is how to cut down sex desire and ultimately become free, paramahamsa. That is civilization according to Vedic culture. Therefore the training from the very beginning, brahmacari. Brahmacari is instructed in such a way that he'll remain brahmacari throughout the whole life. A brahmacari is open to accept either a grhastha asrama or vanaprastha asrama or sannyasa asrama, but the guru advises, "Better remain all through brahmacari. No botheration." So he's trained properly, but still if he has desire, then he's allowed to become a grhastha. That is also for a limited time. The whole plan is how to stop, because as soon as here, that Ajamila, he was not properly married, he became the husband of a prostitute. But there are ten children, but he's entangled with the family, with children, and now he's engaged bhunjanah prapiban khadan balakam sneha-yantritah, one after another. First of all sex desire, pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam [SB 5.5.8].
This world, what is this world, material world? The material means sex desire. That's all. The woman is hunting after man, and the man is hunting after woman. Either in human society or bird society or beast society or dog society or cat society, the principle is sex. And the human society means to understand this, that what is the basic principle of material life. If we understand it is sex, therefore we have to cut down the sex desire gradually by becoming brahmacari, grhastha, vanaprastha, sannyasa. This is the process. Otherwise, if I do not know what is the cause of my material bondage, then how we can take remedy? This is the cause, pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam. The desire is there. As soon as one is grown up, reaching youthful time, the sex desire is very strong, very strong. So they unite, a man..., a boy finds out a girl, a girl finds out a boy. They unite, and there is sex, and as soon as there is sex then there is bondage. Immediately. Pumsah striya mithuni-bhavam etam tayor mitha. As soon as they unite, then the relation becomes very tight, very strong. Then, as soon as one is married, or unmarried -- generally speaking married -- then he wants apartment. Ato grha. Grha means apartment. So long he remains brahmacari there is no need of apartment. He can dine right out on the street. (laughter) But as soon as they're joined together, immediately apartment, grha. Then how to maintain the apartment? Then he must have land. Because formerly there was no industry. Everyone must produce his own food by tilling the field. So to produce food he must have some land. So land was available, still available. One can produce. But they have left that process of livelihood. They are taking to industry.
So ato grha. First of all apartment, then ksetra. Ksetra means agricultural land. Then some capital. Ato grha-ksetra. Then as soon as they're married they, at least woman, wants some child, children. Ato grha-ksetra-suta-apta. After, if he has got very nice apartment and good condition of living, then he'll invite some friends, "Please come and see our happily living." (laughter) And one after another -- bondage. One after another. Because if you're opulent, you have to show your friends. Otherwise what is your opulence? If your friends do not come and say, "Oh, you're so wonderful. (laughter) Yes. You have got such a nice wife, nice apartment. Wonderful!" Because in the Kali-yuga this is wonderful. Everything is mentioned in sastra. Daksyam kutumba-bharanam. If one can maintain one wife and some children, ah, he's most expert. (laughs) Forget Krsna. Here is expert. (laughter) Daksa means expert. "Oh, he's expert. How he's maintaining." When I first came, I met one elderly lady. She had a son. So, as Indian I asked, "Oh, why don't you get your son married?" She replied, "Oh, I have no objection. If he can maintain a wife I have no objection." That means to maintain a wife is a very big job in your country. I've seen it. (laughter) Of course, when we talk we must talk freely. (laughter) That is a fact. (laughter) But formerly, in our father's age, they used to come to foreign countries and they thought it, it is a great laugh to possess one white wife. Yes, they are thinking like that. So all the students who used to come to England for higher studies, naturally he'd carry one white elephant. (laughter) They used to say -- it is not my coined words -- they used to say, "Oh, to maintain European wife, it is like maintaining white elephant." So anyway, you have got so many white elephants. (laughter)
So this is the way, ato grha-ksetra-suta-apta, friends. Arjuna was lamenting, "My dear Krsna, You are asking me to fight with my relatives. Then suppose I become victorious and they're killed. Then whom I shall show the kingdom?" That was his objection. (laughter) "If everyone is killed on the other side, my friends and relatives, and suppose I become victorious, then whom I shall show my prosperity?" So apta, suta, ato grha-ksetra-suta-apta and vitta and money. It is one after another. First wife, then apartment, then field for agriculture, then friends, then children, then money, bank balance. In this way he does not know he's becoming entangled more and more. Ato grha-ksetra-suta-apta-vittaih, janasya moho 'yam. He's thinking that "Now everything is settled up; I am very happy." And next day death comes and kicks him out: "Get out!" That he does not understand. That he does not understand, that "Any moment death can come and kick me out of all this arrangement." That is ignorance. That is foolishness.
So here, bhojayan payayan mudho na veda agatam antakam. He was eighty-eight years old. So he was busy in maintaining the family, children, everything. But he never thought that "Death will come all of a sudden without waiting for my settle everything." That is the eighth wonder. This question was asked by Dharmaraja to Yudhisthira Maharaja: "What are the wonders, the most wonderful wonders? What is that?" So he said, "This is the most wonderful thing." "What is that?" Ahany ahani gacchanti lokani yama-mandiram. Every moment we see that someone is going to the court of Yamaraja -- that means death. That is our experience, everything. Ahany ahani lokani gacchanti yama-mandiram sesah sthitam icchanti. Sesah, who is not yet dead, he's still alive, he thinks, "I will never die. My dear friend is dying. That's all right. But I'll... Your father is dead. No, still I will be..." Sesah sthitam icchanti kim ascaryam atah param. This is the most wonderful thing that we have experience, that "My father is dead, my father's father is dead, so I shall also be die, my sons will die." Well, who will stay? Well, what is the struggle for existence, survival of the fittest? He never thinks of it. This is the eighth wonder.
Thank you very much.
Devotees: Jaya! (end)>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.26 -- Honolulu, May 26, 1976
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The incident of Lord Rama and the Dog
From Valmiki's Ramayana Uttara Khandha between chapters 59-60
Thereafter in the bright morning Sri Rama, of lotus-like eye having performed forenoon rites, took his seat in the Royal Council-chamber along with the Brahmanas, who were masters of the Vedas the priest Vasistha and the sage Kasyapa in order to look into the royal business.(1-2) The royal council (assembly) consisted of ministers, knowers of common practices, legal procedures and other teachers of laws who recite scriptures, diplomats (statesmen), kings and other members of the council.(3) The assembly of Sri Rama, the chief of kings and unwearied in actions looked graceful like the assembly of Indra, Yama and Varuna.(4)
Then Sri Rama said to Laksmana who was seated there and who was characterized by auspicious marks, 'O Long-armed Laksmana! Go out and call by turn those, who have come with some business'. Having listened to Sri Rama's order, Laksmana endowed with auspicious marks, going to the palace-gate himself called those who had come with some request. None there came forward saying that he had some request (to make). (5-7)
During the reign of Sri Rama no one was offended by either physical or mental ailment. The earth abounded in all kinds of plants and fully ripe agricultural produce. Thus in His kingdom neither any child nor any young man nor any middle-aged person died. Everything was administered according to 'Dharma' (moral law). No hindrance was ever put, While Sri Rama ruled over the kingdom no one was seen coming with any request with folded hands, Laksmana communicated Him all this. (8-10)
Then the gracious-minded Sri Rama addressed the following words to Laksmana, "Go again and find out about those who have come with some request." When the state policy is formulated properly (and executed well), unrighteousness does not obtain anywhere. Therefore all persons protect one another due to the fear from the king (due to the apprehension of royal punishment). My officers protect the subjects like arrows shot by Me. Even then, O long-armed one! Protect the subjects righteously. (11-13)
Thus told (by Sri Rama) Laksmana went out of the royal palace andsaw a dog at the gate, which stood there looking at him and repeatedly barking. On seeing him, then the valiant Laksmana asked – 'O Illustrious one! Tell me fearlessly your problem.' On hearing Laksmana's words the dog replied thus. (14-16) "I can dare tell Sri Rama, who is a refuge to all living beings, who is ever unwearied in action and ensures protection whenever there is occasion for fear.' (17) On hearing the dog's speech, Laksmana entered the auspicious royal palace in order to communicate the same to Sri Rama and after informing Him Laksmana came out of the royal palace and said to the dog, "If you have to say some thing, then tell the king about it." (18-19)
Having heard laksmana's speech the dog said, "Agni (the Fire-god), Indra, Surya (the sun-god) and Vayu (the wind-god) are present in the temples, the royal abode and the houses of Brahmanas. O Laksmana! We, of the lowest origin, are unfit to go there. (20-21) I shall not be able to enter there (the royal palace). King Sri Rama is 'Dharma.' He speaks the truth, He is adept in battle-fighting and is devoted to doing good to all the people. (22) Sri rama knows the appropriate time for the applicators – practice of the six Gunas. He dispenses Justice. He is omniscient, He sees all things. Sri Rama is foremost among those who delight others. (23) He is Soma, He is Death. He is Yama (God of Death). He is Kubera, Agni and Indra, and He is Surya (the sun) and Varuna. (24) Sri Rama is the protector of the subjects. O Laksmana! tell Him, "Without permission, I do not want to enter (the royal palace).' (25)
(On hearing this) The illustrious and glorious Laksmana having entered the royal abode out of compassion said the following words: (26) 'O Sri Rama! listen to what I have to say. O delighter of Kausalya! O long-armed one! O lord! According to what you had commanded, I called on those who have come with some business. A dog, which has come with a request is standing at your palace-gate.' After hearing Laksmana's speech Sri Rama said: "Let it enter quickly, which is standing there with some requests.' (27-28)
Part Two
On hearing Sri Rama's speech, the wise Laksmana, after hurriedly calling the dog, informed Sri Rama about its (the dog's) arrival, and presented him before Sri Rama, Having seen the dog that had come, Sri Rama said to him, "O dog! Tell me what you have to say, you need not fear at all.' (1-2)
Thereafter the dog whose skull was shattered saw Sri Rama seated there. Having seen the king, the dog addressed the following speech. (3) "The king is the creator of all living beings and the king is the leader (of men). The king remains awake, when others are asleep. The king protects the subjects. (4) The king, who is the protector (of all), protects Dharma by pursuing right policy. When the king does not protect, the subjects perish soon. (5) The king is the creator, protector and father of the entire world. The king is the time (sets the trend of the times) and the 'Yuga' (a particular age of the world). The king is the whole world. (6) They call it 'Dharma', for it sustains (the world). The created beings are sustained by 'Dharma'. Since it supports the three worlds together with all the movable and immovable things. (7) He sustains (even) his enemies, puts them on the right path and delights his subjects by 'Dharma'. Therefore he (his rule) is known as 'Dharma'. (8) This act of 'Dharana' or sustaining is 'Dharma' – this is the conclusion. O king Sri Rama, this is the highest 'Dharma', which yields reward after death. My view is that nothing is unattainable by 'Dharma'. (9) Charity, compassion, honoring noble man, straight-forwardness in behavior. O Rama! This is the 'Dharma' in this life and the life hereafter that accrues from protecting the subjects. (10)
O Rama, strict observer of vows! You are the authority par-excellence. You are conversant with the 'Dharma', which is practiced by good people. You are the supreme abode of 'Dharmas'(Duties) and an ocean of virtues, as it were. I spoke out of my ignorance. Bowing my head I pray. You should not get angry on this account.' (11-13)
On this Sri Rama told the dog:- "Tell me fearlessly what I should do for you. Do not delay," On hearing Rama's speech the dog addressed the following words: "The king should acquire territory by 'Dharma' and should protect it by 'Dharma'. The king comes to be recognized as a refuge and dispels all fear. (14-15) Having realized this, O Rama! listen what you have to do for me. There is a mendicant, namedSarvarthasiddha, who lives in the house of a Brahmana. Without any cause he struck at me! sinless though I was." (16) On hearing this, Sri Rama sent the gatekeeper, who brought the learned Brahmana Sarvarthasiddha by name. Thus the eminent Brahmana, endowed with splendor seeing Sri Rama there asked him, "O sinless Sri Rama! Tell me what do you want me to do for you?" (17-18)
Thus told by the Brahmana, Sri Rama addressed the following words, "O Brahmana! You hurt the dog. What ill did it do to you, for which you struck it with a stick? Anger is a deadly enemy, anger is a friend-faced enemy. Anger is a highly sharp sword. Anger takes away everything (destroys all virtues). Whichever sacrifices a person performs and whatever in charity he gives, all that he destroys by anger. Therefore one should give up anger and control like a charioteer, one's senses, running forth towards their objects like very wicked horses, after turning them away from their objects (19-23) A man should do good to the people around himself by thought, by action and by speech. He should not hurt anybody. No sin, therefore, will attach to him. The harm, which is wrought by evil thoughts, are not done by a sharp sword or a serpent trampled by foot or an ever wrathful enemy. One who has learnt discipline, even his temperament can not be changed. Even if some one conceals his (evil) nature, it is surely betrayed by his action. (24-26)
Thus asked by Sri Rama, who was unwearied in actions, the Brahmana Sarvarthasiddha said this in Sri Rama's presence. (27) 'While I was going about for begging food the appropriate time for begging had passed, I was overpowered by anger, so I beat the dog. The dog, which was standing on the road (blocking my way) was asked by me to move away. Not moving at all it stood in the middle of the road in an odd manner. (28-29) Overtaken by hunger, O Rama! I beat it angrily. O King of kings! Punish me, a guilty person. O chief of kings! Having been punished by you, I would not be afraid of hell. Thereafter Sri Rama asked all the members of the assembly, 'What should be done to him, and what punishment should be meted out to him? For if proper punishment is given (to the guilty), the subjects are protected. (30-31) Bhrgu, Angira, Kutsa and others, Vasistha along with Kasyapa, eminent teachers of laws, ministers and interpreters of the Vedas – these and many other scholars were present there. All of them – the masters of scriptures and those who were well-versed in state affairs told Sri Rama that a Brahmana is not to be awarded capital punishment, it is declared by experts in scriptures. (32-34)
Then all the hermits addressed Sri Rama in following words, "A King holds sway over everyone. O Sri Rama! Specially You, who is eternal god Visnu, are the ruler of the three worlds." (35-36) When all of them had addressed thus, the dog said as follows "If you are pleased with me, O Rama, and if you are to bestow on me a boon (then listen to me) O Valiant One! You asked me what you should do for me, and promised (to do what I would request you to do). So make him O King! a 'Kulapati' as promised by you. Your Majesty! make him 'Kulapati' of Kalanjara." On hearing this Sri Rama consecrated him as Kulapati. (37-39)
Thus honored, the happy Brahmana went away riding an elephant-back. Then the ministers smilingly with astonishment, said to Sri Rama, "He has been given a boon. O resplendent one. This is not a curse." Thus told by the ministers Sri Rama said "You do not know the truth about the course of actions. The dog knows the reason (and will tell why the Brahmana had been made Kulapati)." On being asked thus by Sri Rama the dog addressed the following speech. "I (In my previous birth) was the Kulapati of the same place (Kalanjara Matha). Partaking of the remains of sacrificial food, O Rama! I would be engaged in worshipping gods and Brahmanas and gave to the male and maid-servants their due. I had a love for good things I would protect the property dedicated to gods. I was modest and well-behaved and was engaged in doing good to all living beings. Even then I have been reduced to this wretched state and lowest position. O Rama! therefore such a Brahmana, who is irascible, who has given up his 'Dharma' and who is engaged in harming others, who is hot-tempered, ruthless, harsh, foolish (ignorant) and irreligious will lead to the downfall of fourteen generations. (40-46)
"Therefore, one should not in any circumstances become a Kulapati. Only, he should be made to look after gods, cows and Brahmanas, whom one would wish to condemn to go to hell along with sons, cattle and relatives. (47) One who takes away the property of the Brahmanas, gods, women and children and takes back again what has been given away in charity, perishes along with one's all dear ones. O Sri Rama! One who takes away the property belonging to the Brahmanas and the gods, soon goes to the fearful hell known as 'Avici' one who takes away even mentally the property belonging to the gods and the Brahmanas, goes down from one hell to another." On hearing the speech (of the dog) the eyes of Sri Rama opened widely due to wonder, the dog, too possessed of luster, went to place from where it had come. It was a high minded soul in its former birth but on being born (as a dog) it has been spoiled. The illustrious one sought death by abstaining from taking food in Varanasi. (48-52)
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Digest 393, December 17th, 2012. Answers by His Holiness Romapada Swami Maharaja You are invited to send your questions to His Holiness Romapada Swami at mail@iita.info with the word "Question" included in the subject line or submit your question at http://www.romapadaswami.com/?
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773) When we are in a mood of surrender, is it possible to spiritualize all activities that do not break the four regulative principles? I ask because I am a student at a University, and am seeking to engage in my studies with a mood of service. While it is indirect service, what should be the appropriate mindset towards secular schooling?
Answer: Yes. Not only is it possible to spiritualize, but it is the very purpose and culmination of all branches of education and all departments of human activity to be engaged in service to God. This is explained by Narada Muni to Vyasadeva in Srimad Bhagavatam 1.5.22 (http://vedabase.net/sb/1/5/22/en). The purpose of all branches of study is to glorify the Supreme Lord.
In the beginning one may not know exactly how to utilize these different activities for the Lord's glorification. This spiritual science needs to be systematically learned by careful study and practice of Krishna consciousness. In the meanwhile, one can pursue these activities as a matter of duty for self-purification, and in the spirit of the following scriptural directions. Lord Krishna describes in the Gita how by performing one's own duties one can worship Him:
(http://vedabase.net/bg/18/46/en) The opening chapters of Bhagavad- gita, particularly chapters 3-5 detail how performance of such occupational engagements in a dutiful, detached spirit, without sense of doership and proprietorship, gradually leads one to the platform of Krsna consciousness.
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