Reminder for Thursday, 11 Feb 2010

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Reminder for Thursday, 11 Feb 2010

Break fast 06:32 - 10:26 (LT)

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The Lost Village Movie Trailer-Inspired by HH.Lokanath Swami

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Ganga Movie Trailer

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"H.H. Lokanath Swami Maharaj Disciples & Friends" sent you a message on Facebook...-Must See!!!!!

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Sumalini Lalita sent a message to the members of H.H. Lokanath Swami Maharaj Disciples & Friends.

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Subject: The Movie Lost Village!!!

Inspired by the Story of H.H Lokanath Swami.

The movie Lost Village is finally finished! Orders are accepted at sales@lostvillagemovie.com and pay by PayPal.

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Once upon a time......Must Read!!!

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Once upon a time there was a rich King who had four wives.

He loved the 4th wife the most and adorned her with rich robes and treated her to the finest of delicacies. He gave her nothing but the best. He also loved the 3rd wife very much and was always showing her off to neighboring kingdoms. However, he feared that one day she would leave him for another.He also loved his 2nd wife. She was his confidant and was always kind, considerate and patient with him. Whenever the King faced a problem, he could confide in her, and she would help him get through the difficult times

The King's 1st wife was a very loyal partner and had made great contributions in maintaining his wealth and kingdom. However, he did not love the first wife. Although she loved him deeply, he hardly took notice of her!

One day, the King fell ill and he knew his time was short. He thought of his luxurious life and wondered, I now have four wives with me, but when I die, I'll be all alone."

Thus, he asked the 4th wife, "I loved you the most, endowed you with the finest clothing and showered great care over you. Now that I'm dying, will you follow me and keep me company?"

"No way!" replied the 4th wife, and she walked away without another word.

Her answer cut like a sharp knife right into his heart.

The sad King then asked the 3rd wife, "I loved you all my life. Now that I'm dying, will you follow me and keep me company?"

"No!" replied the 3rd wife. "Life is too good! When you die, I'm going to remarry!"

His heart sank and turned cold.

He then asked the 2nd wife, "I have always turned to you for help and you've always been there for me. When I die, will you follow me and keep me company?"

"I'm sorry, I can't help you out this time!" replied the 2nd wife. "At the very most, I can only walk with you to your grave."

Her answer struck him like a bolt of lightning, and the King was devastated.

Then a voice called out: "I'll go with you. I'll follow you no matter where you go."

The King looked up, and there was his first wife. She was very skinny as she suffered from malnutrition and neglect.

Greatly grieved, the King said, "I should have taken much better care of you when I had the chance!"

In truth, we all have the 4 wives in our lives:

Our 4th wife is our body. No matter how much time and effort we lavish in
making it look good, it will leave us when we die.

Our 3rd wife is our possessions, status and wealth. When we die, it will all go to others.

Our 2nd wife is our family and friends. No matter how much they have been there for us, the furthest they can stay by us is up to the grave.

And our 1st wife is our soul. Often neglected in pursuit of wealth, power and pleasures of the world. However, our soul is the only thing that is eternal.

Bhagavad Gita 2:20

For the soul there is never birth nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain.

Bhagavad Gita 2:24

This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is everlasting, all-pervading, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same.

Take the time now to come to self-realization, and find your relationship with God.

Bhagavad Gita 6:28

Steady in the Self, being freed from all material contamination, the yogi achieves the highest perfectional stage of happiness in touch with the Supreme Consciousness.

PURPORT

Self-realization means knowing one's constitutional position in relationship to the Supreme. The individual soul is part and parcel of the Supreme, and his position is to render transcendental service to the Lord

Your Servant In Service Of Srila Prabhupada and Gurudev,
Sachin Kumar Gupta
Chant:Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare,Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.& be Happy

Yours Servant

Sri Krishna Hari Das
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Website Discovered!

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Website Discovered!

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Who Should Read The Bhagavad Gita?

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WHO SHOULD READ THE BHAGAVAD GITA?

The Young - To learn how to live.
The Old - To Know how to die.
The Ignorant - For wisdom.
The Learned - For humility.
The Rich - For compassion.
The Poor - For comfort.
The Dreamer - For enchantment.
The Practical - For counsel.
The Weak - For strength.
The Strong - For direction.
The Haughty - For warning.
The Humble - For exaltation.
The Troubled - For peace.
The Weary - For rest.
The Doubting - For assurance.
The Sinner - For salvation.
*The Human - For guidance.*

Your Servant In Service Of Srila Prabhupada and Gurudev,
Sachin Kumar Gupta
Chant:Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare,Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare.& be Happy
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Yours Servant

Sri Krishna Hari Das
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Humility - Important

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Humility

We should protect ourselves from false prestige. Not like that we serve a little, and then we expect respect and prestige and we should not think that we are the doer. Sometime we preach a bit, get a bit of success, and then we can't put feet on ground, we go in sky. So Lord is telling here do not run after false prestige and also do not think that " I am the doer." As soon as you think that I am the doer, and it is because of me the success has been achieved then you will see that with time whatever little spiritual strength you have gained that gets lost. Lord gets pleased by humility.

Vyas Puja 7.13.28 27.08.08, New Delhi

The holy name is the most valuable asset that you can possess!

- By H.H.Gopal Krishna Goswami Maharaj

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Yours Servant

Sri Krishna Hari Das

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Triple S formula for the time management-Urgent and Important(Must Read!!)

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Hare Krishna to all the Vaishnavas,

Please accept my humble obesiances!

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

The following is an excerpt from the lecture of HG Gopinatha Chandra Prabhu. I find it useful to share. Although we know all the principles of bhakti, but sometimes what we lack in our life is proper discipline and time management. And because of that our progress in bhakti hampers. So, this is a very useful lecture.

Time management techniques

A teacher entered a classroom with an empty jug and then filled the jug with big rocks. And asked the students whether it is full or not. Students repiled that it is full. Then the teacher brought smaller stones and they occupied the space between the rocks. Then again asked that whether it is full or not? The students replied that yes it is full. After that the teacher pour sand and the sand occupies the smaller gaps between stones. And then students said that actually now it is full. Then the teacher pour the water and the jug could not hold the water. Then the teacher said that now it is actually full. Then teacher asked the students what will happen if we do this process in reverse i.e putiing the big rocks at the last? Their will no space for the rocks. Then the teacher asked that what do you learn from this? The students said that this is the time management class.

So, what is the lesson to be learned. The lesson is If we compare the jar with the total amount of time that we have in our lives and we compare the different commodities that is pt into the jar to the different activities we perform in our time. Then what is to be understood is depending upon the order in which we place our activities. Depending upon how we plan our activities with in the time that we have to that extent we will be able to manage our time very nicely. We can fit into more activites into same amount of time and achieve more in this life.

Now in what order the activities has to be fixed in the jar of time? Just like when the big rocks where put into the jar first, the jar could be filled up with more number of things. But when the big rocks where kept towards the end, the jar could not be filled up with all the things. So, similarly time managements expert says that we have to identify the most important activity in our life first and rest of the activities can be scheduled.

Another very interesting concept which comes in time management is Time management metrics. All the activities we perform can be divided into 4 quadrants.

1) Urgent activities and important activities: For example a student having the exam next day. For him studying is the most urgent and important activity.

2) Not urgent but important: Student going to study for exam which is 1 month later. So, here studying is not urgent but important.

3) Activities that are urgent but not important: For example a phone call is coming, it is urgent to pich up the phone, but may be not important call. Practically billboards in Mumbai are promoting urgent but not important activities. That is the whole propaganda of advertisement industry. A new movie has come in the market and there is an urge that I have to see as soon as possible. It seems to be very urgent. A person addicted to ciggarate, feels smoking as urgent. Most activities of the modern civilization can be categorised into this quadrant i.e. those which are urgent but not important.

4) Not urgent and not important: Sleeping unnecessarily. Time pass. People like to hang out. Now a days so many new activities are coming like internet is promoting activities like orkut and facebook. Not urgent and not important.

Now, the whole time management involves bringing our activities more and more into Q2 quadrant. That means the more we perform activities that are not urgent but important the more the quality of our life will improve. A simple example:
A student who studies regularly, his studies are not urgent but important. In this way he can perform well in long run. But if he does not perform not urgent but important activities but happens is he will find himself in urgent and important quadrant. He will find exam very close and he has to hurry up.And he has to do kind some fix study which won't bring best out of him.Similarly, a working professional int this world if he doesn't identify these kind of activities which dont seem to be urgent but are important and does not allot time for these activities first what happens is very soon he finds life in mess.
Doing a project on time may not seem to be an urgent activity but its an important. But the general tendency is to procrastinate. Let me do later. Until we feel it is urgent we do not want to solve the problem. Until we feel it is urgent, we can solve the problem but we cannot solve the problem in the best possible way. That is always the case. So, if you want to make a change in our life time management says that we have identify not urgent but important activities. Once we allot time for these first and then allot time for other activities later then in due course of time we will find that the quality of our life slowly improving. These are the big rocks. The most important things which dont seem to be urgent immediately. Its a common thing in hospital especially student is studying and a friend comes to him and he said to him why are you studying now exams are one month later. Come lets have fun. Lets go out, and the tendency is to succumb to such temptations. So, more we identify activities that are important in our lives but may not be seem to be urgent activities. We have to identify these activities and give priority to these first. And then other activities can be adjusted for the remaining amount of time.

Time management experts have given triple S formula:

1) Shrink activities in Q1 quadrant: Try to reduce the activites that are urgent and important activity. This can be done by doing activities on time. Otherwise it seems that we are always in urgency. We are not able to lead the satisfactory life.

2) Say no to Q3 activities: Say no to activities that seems to be urgent but not important. Most of the time in activities that seems to be urgent but are not important because of the propaganda going on around us. If easy access to internet is there then students have syndrome to check the mail. They check mails in every 2 hours. They feel uneasy if they dont check the mails. One has to restrain his impulsive behaviour. In this world impulsive behavior is becoming popular more and more. Minds say something and we do immediately. If a student sits for studying and the mind says check the mail. It seems to be urgent activity, but actually its not important. So, say no to instincts.

3) Slacker activities should be avoided: Those activities comes in Q4. Time pass activity. Not urgent, not important. Time killing. Like sitting in front of internet and browsing through different web pages. What is means that identify the most important things in your life and spend your time in important activities.

But how can we apply this practically? Effective time management can be done if we understand the principle of Bhagvad Gita.

Quadrant 1 activities are those to be in hurry. Procrastinate things. A person who postpone the things and when a deadline comes then he is busy in doing urgent activities. " I will do this later." They cannot lead happy, satisfactory and peaceful life. Procrastination is a symptom of person in "tamo guna". From Bhagvad Gita point of view, for effective time management one has to rise above tamo guna. Come out of tamo guna. Bhagvad Gita says people who are confused about what to do and what no to do are in tamo guna. One has to rise above tamo guna. Among triple S, two can be achieved by rising above tamo guna. And 3rd S is say no to Q3 quadrant activities. Rise above the instinctive nature. That is mode of passion. One has to come to the mode of goodness. What is goodness? Doing right activities at right time. If we combine Time management and Bhagvad Gita together then we manage our time. In order to implement practically in our life we have to learn the principles of Bhagvad Gita. Bhagvad Gita is the book giving the guidelines, how to come above lower modes and situate in the mode of goodness. Time management experts lacks how to practically apply triple S in our life. Understand the dynamics of guna. That can be understood by understanding and applying Bhagvad Gita. One can actually make changes in forth coming year if he tries and implements the principles of Bhagvad Gita slowly but surely. Otherwise he will keep wondering why nothing happening. Life will remain same as long as we will not understand how to manage our life properly. Time management experts goes giving seminar, but it is not practical unless one does not understand the dynamics of guna. Bhagvad Gita is a perfect book, people in corporate world are recognizing it. If we don't make serious attempt what Bhagvad Gita has to say, then time just passes by and wonders how time slips away. Every year man makes new year resolution, but does not know how to apply practically these resolutions in forth coming year. We do not know the secret of how to make the change. Secret lies in sacred literature i.e. Bhagvad Gita. Krishna towars the ends of Bhagvad Gita says to Arjuna that one who studies this conversation of ours worships me with perfect intelligence. It is the perfect book required to transform and mould our lives.

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Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Ram Hare Ram Hare Ram Ram Ram Hare Hare

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Please forgive me

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Please forgive me

Hare Krishna Dear Friends and Devotees!

You may have read this before….but please read this again with changes below.

There once was a little boy who had a bad temper. His Father gave him a bag of nails and told him that every time he lost his temper, he must hammer a nail into the back of the fence.

The first day the boy had driven 37 nails into the fence. Over the next few weeks, as he learned to control his anger, the number of nails hammered daily gradually dwindled down. He discovered it was easier to hold his temper than to drive those nails into the fence.

Finally the day came when the boy didn't lose his temper at all. He told his father about it and the father suggested that the boy now pull out one nail for each day that he was able to hold his temper.

The days passed and the young boy was finally able to tell his father that all the nails were gone.

The father took his son by the hand and led him to the fence. He said, "You have done well, my son, but look at the holes in the fence. The fence will never be the same. When you say things in anger, they leave a scar just like this one. You can put a knife in a man and draw it out. It won't matter how many times you say I'm sorry, the wound is still there."

A verbal wound is as bad as a physical one. Friends are very rare jewels, indeed. They make you smile and encourage you to succeed. They lend an ear, they share words of praise and they always want to open their hearts to us."

YOU ARE MY FRIEND AND I AM YOUR SERVANT!

Please forgive me if I have ever left a hole in your heart.

Please forgive me if I have committed any offenses knowingly or unknowingly.

Yours Servant

Sri Krishna Hari Das
(Dr Satish Gosain MBBS DNB i Med)

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The Beggar-Thought from HH Bhakti-Thirtha Swami

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Thought from HH Bhakti-Thirtha Swami

From the book "The Beggar"

By HH Bhakti Thirtha Swami Krishnapada

My dear Lord, it is I who was so fortunate to meet Your representative on this planet. I met that great Acarya, His e Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. He was so kind. He taught us everything, and what did I do? I did not take his association, nor his message, very seriously.

My dear Lord Madhusudhana, it is I who was so fortunate to take birth in a religious family. Everyone was instructed to worship and serve You in a loving way. You were said to be the goal in life. We were told to offer everything to You and to give all respects, and what did I do? I did not take Your association very seriously, nor did I appreciate the depth of Your message.

My dear Lord Madhusudhana, it is I who was so fortunate to lead a very diversified life. Brought up in the ghetto, I was able to associate with the rich and the super-rich. I was given an excellent chance to see suffering and illusion from all sides, and what did I do? I did not value these associations, nor did I appreciate the message that was there for me to learn.

My dear Lord, it is I who was so fortunate to be given a healthy body. With this body I could have rendered service to You and Your representatives twenty hours a day, but what did I do? I did not appreciate these blessings, nor did I use this body completely in Your service.

My dear Lord, it is I to whom You gave many spiritual books and other spiritual paraphernalia, and what did I do? I read them and put them aside. I did not fully understand the books, nor did I sufficiently attempt to enter into those pastimes.

My dear Lord Madhusudhana, it is I whom You allowed to travel all around the world, studying so many cultures, meeting many professors from various countries, giving them all the chance to hear the message of sanatana dharma explained by Your pure devotee, Srila Prabhupada, and what did I do? I did not represent You properly, not understanding that Krishna is the source of all success.

My dear Lord, it is to me You have sent so many wonderful devotees to associate with, so many mentors, and what do I do? I have not accepted any of my mentors (as I offend and challenge them regularly), nor have I valued the great mercy of vaisnava association.

My dear Lord, You have sent so many souls to assist me by removing any reason not to give this life to You. These disciples have undergone all types of austerities under my order, for You and Your service, and what have I done? I have not been a compassionate spiritual master, nor have I caught up with our great predecessors.

My dear Lord Madhusudhana, You are the killer of the Madhu demon. This demon was so powerful, but for You his annihilation presented no difficulty. My Lord, it is I that have a mind in which lodges such an active demon. This demon is an infant next to the great raksasha demons You have already destroyed.

My dear Lord, I am such a beggar, I have no one to turn to but You. I have taken all associations and opportunities for granted. Without your causeless mercy, my life is finished. I, Bhakti-Tirtha, cry out, asking that You please kill this demon in mind, allowing me to fix my consciousness totally on Your feet. I humbly make this request, but if I do not receive Your blessings, how will I continue in this body? Please, my Lord, appear fully in my mind, never to leave. I beg forgiveness. I am that desperate beggar waiting anxiously for Your rescue and established presence.

I couldn't read this without being inspired but also reminded of my own position in life

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Ditch of Materialistic Life-Must Read

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Ditch of Materialistic Life

Posted: 26 Jan 2010 06:27 PM PST

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu said the following to Srila Raghunatha Dasa Goswami when Raghunatha left his home to become a renunciant.

Text:
Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu said, "The mercy of Lord Krsna is stronger than anything else. Therefore the Lord has delivered you from the ditch of materialistic life, which is like a hole into which people pass stool."

Srila Prabhupada's commentary:
According to the law of karma, everyone is destined to suffer or enjoy according to a certain material standard, but the mercy of Lord Krsna is so powerful that the Lord can change all the reactions of one's past karma, or fruitive activities. Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu specifically drew attention to the mercy of Lord Krsna. That mercy is more powerful than anything else, for it had saved Raghunatha dasa from the strong bondage of materialistic life, which the Lord compared to a hole where people pass stool. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu gave His verdict that those addicted to the materialistic way of life are like worms that are living in stool but cannot give it up. A grha-vrata, one who has decided to live in a comfortable home although it is actually miserable, is in a condemned position. Only the mercy of Krsna can save one from such misery. Without Krsna's mercy, one cannot get out of the filthy entanglement of materialistic life. The poor living entity cannot give up his materialistic position on his own; only when granted the special mercy of Krsna can he give it up. Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu knew very well that Raghunatha dasa was already liberated. Nevertheless He emphasized that Raghunatha dasa's life of material comfort as a very rich man's son with a very beautiful wife and many servants to attend him was like a ditch of stool. The Lord thus specifically indicated that ordinary men who are very happy with material comforts and family life are in no better position than worms in stool.

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Antya 6.193

Lord Caitanya lovingly interacts with Raghunatha Dasa Goswami

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Brahmacarya.info

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Ditch of Materialistic Life

Posted: 26 Jan 2010 06:27 PM PST

Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu said the following to Srila Raghunatha Dasa Goswami when Raghunatha left his home to become a renunciant.

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Antya 6.193

Lord Caitanya lovingly interacts with Raghunatha Dasa Goswami

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Srila Prabhupada speaks on: "One Machine-Hundred Unamployed"-Must Read!!

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"One Machine-Hundred Unamployed"

Vrndavana, March 15, 1974

listen

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Prabhupada: ...you should call learned. Arcye visnau sila-dhir gurusu nara-matir vaisnave jati-buddhih. You take it...

Nitai: Yes.

Prabhupada: ...this quotation from Padma Purana, and distribute it by transcribing to all our devotees.

Nitai: That's the verse that says that one is a resident of hell...

Prabhupada: Yes. Naraki.

Nitai: ...if he considers the Deity...

Prabhupada: Naraki.

Nitai: Yes.

Prabhupada: Arcye visnau... [break] ...when it will teach military art, with tilaka, soldiers will, "Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna..." (laughter) We want that. Marching with military band, "Hare Krsna." You maintain this idea. Is it not good?

Hrdayananda: Yes, Prabhupada.

Prabhupada: When there will be military march of Krsna conscious soldiers. Anyone who does not believe in Krsna, "Blam!" (laughter) Yes. The same process as the Mohammedans did, with sword and Koran, we'll have to do that. "Do you believe in Krsna or not?" "No, sir." "Blam!" Finished. (laughter, Prabhupada laughs) What do you think, Madhudvisa Maharaja? Is that all right?

Madhudvisa: Yes.

Prabhupada: (laughing) What these communists can do? We can do better than them. We can kill many communists like that. (laughter) Then it will be counteraction of communist movement. And you think like that. "Why you are sitting idly, no employment? Come on to the field! Take this plow! Take this bull. Go on working. Why you are sitting idly?" This is Krsna consciousness movement. Nobody should be allowed to sit down and sleep. They must find out some employment, either work as brahmana or as a ksatriya or as a vaisya. Why there should be unemployment? The same example. Just like I am, this body is working. The leg is working, hand is working, brain is working, belly is working. Why there should be unemployment? You just stop this unemployment, you will see the whole world is peaceful. There is no complaint. And they'll very happily chant Hare Krsna. Hm? Nobody's working in this field. They're all drawn to the cities to work in the factory. Condemned civilization. That communist emblem, what is that?

Devotees: Hammer and sickle.

Prabhupada: Yes. That is good.

Indian: Yeah, good.

Prabhupada: But no hammer. Only this... What is called?

Devotees: Sickle.

Prabhupada: No hammer. That will be our emblem. Only sickle. Not hammer. The hammer has hammered the whole human civilization. So just make a counter-emblem. The communists will appreciate.

Devotee: Sickle and tilaka.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Devotee: A sickle, and then a tilaka.

Prabhupada: Yes, that is good idea. Guptaji? Come here. (Hindi)

Gupta: (Hindi for few sentences)

Prabhupada: Rascal civilization, rascal government. And people are transferred into rascals. (Hindi) Annad bhavanti bhutani [Bg. 3.14]. Without anna, how they can live? There is no arrangement for anna. They're simply passing resolution, legislative laws. And no anna. Just see what kind of wretched government it is. Everywhere. There is no anna. Annad bhavanti bhutani. The first duty of government is to see that everyone is happy, without any anxiety. These preliminary necessities of life, ahara-nidra-bhaya-maithunam, there must be sufficient arrangement for these preliminary necessities of life. One must eat sumptuously. Not over-eating, indulgence. No. But he must have sufficient food to keep up the health. Similarly, he must have place to sleep. We, we are prepared to offer everything. And be Krsna conscious. This is our mission. Not by eating and sleeping, become rogues and thieves and rascals. That we will not allow. That is varnasrama-dharma. (Hindi conversation for a few sentences) Why unemployment? There is no scarcity (of) water. Just have a big well. Electricity pump water. Oh, immediately, it will be all green. Immediately. (Hindi for a while) Jayo! Hare Krsna! [break] ...all round, for the benefit of the human society. You'll be honored everywhere. Everywhere, any part of the world. And automatically these bogus avatara, incarnations, God, and yogis and swamis will be all doomed. You see? These rascal society, avatara, "Bhagavan," incarnations, yogis, these rascals will be doomed.

Gupta: These (indistinct) ought to be finished. They cannot remain.

Prabhupada: No! (Hindi) ...that glowworm. Glowworm (Hindi) beautiful (Hindi) darkness hai. (Hindi) So long people were in darkness, they were beautiful. Now there is sunshine.

Gupta: Yes.

Hrdayananda: Prabhupada is the sun.

Prabhupada: (Hindi) [break] ...the anxiety of Prahlada Maharaja, "How these rascals, who have made a plan for happiness of a few men, gorgeous plan." And they're... For happiness of the government servant. That's all. You know in Delhi there is Planning Commission? What is that plan? That people may starve, and Indira Gandhi and company may flourish. That's all.

Gupta: I think, Maharaja, they are coming to the office at twelve and going back at one, doing nothing, and...

Prabhupada: But what they have got to do?

Gupta: They are not doing...

Prabhupada: Just like I have seen in London the Parliament. When they had some so-called empire... Now the Parliament is useless, useless. The Parliament members and the Lords, House of Lords, House of Commons, they are now useless. They have got some old books only. In Parliament. I have seen. Some old books. Old books means all the speeches are recorded in books. And who is going to read them? Almiras, so many... I have seen in Parliament. Hundreds and thousands of speeches recorded and bound up very nicely. Who is going to read them? Simply waste of time.

Gupta: They are increasing the load like this.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Gupta: Donkey's load. Go on increasing, increasing.

Prabhupada: Therefore this example is given: ass. For nothing, not for himself. He'll be given a little grass. The grass is available here. But still, he's engaged. Employment. Ass will reap, eat little grass. Grass is available everywhere. But still, he'll work for others, loading, overloading. This is ass. He has no sense, "So why I have taken so much overload? I can get grass anywhere. Let me remain free." But he has no such sense. Neither he will be allowed. (laughs) This is ass. Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna... [break] ...there are many babajis. They are collecting capatis and smoking bidi, and have one or two women. That's all. It is going on. So they should be drawn: "Come on! Chant Hare Krsna and take the plough." Not that you become Rupa Gosvami simply by smoking. They are thinking they have become Rupa Gosvami. Rupa Gosvami lived like that. So they think by changing the cloth, loincloth, they have become Rupa Gosvami. And whatever nonsense they like, they can do. [break] ...taken and all these babajis should be employed, "Chant Hare Krsna and draw plough." Then it will be nice.

Jayadvaita: In America too, the...

Prabhupada: Eh?

Jayadvaita: In America too, the big intellectuals and professors, they can also be... We can have ploughs for them.

Prabhupada: Yes, because they're wasting time. Better produce some food. At least, your food. You are living at the cost of others. What is the value of your philosophy? That... To... In the Bhagavad-gita: etaj jnanam, tad ajnanam yad anyatha. To search out the Absolute Truth, that is jnana, knowledge, philosophy. Anything else, that is ajnanam. [break] ...I think it is so that if you cannot use your plot of land, then it will go to the government. Is it not?

Gupta: Yes.

Prabhupada: So similarly, if the government cannot utilize, it comes to us. We shall work. Is it not good?

Gupta: Very good.

Prabhupada: There must be some law like that. The government has taken from the public because it is not being worked out. Now we shall work. Give us this land. (Hindi) "You have taken from the public. Why should you not give us?" So that there will be no question, even government does not, we shall go and occupy, occupy, and go on tilling. What the government will...? Public will support us.

Gupta: Again it is being distributed to their relations, those who are in the power, and then they do not work again.

Prabhupada: Again

Gupta: Then it remains...

Prabhupada: Then whatever field is not being worked, we occupy them, and begin to work. And invite all the unemployed, "Come and join us. We shall give you food, shelter, everything." [break] ...how Krsna is setting example. Krsna is saying that "I have already arranged the result of this fighting. Everyone will be killed." Nimitta-matram bhava savyasacin. But still, He is inducing Arjuna to work. Not that He's already (indistinct), "I am your friend, Krsna. Everything will be done." "It will be done, but you have to work."

Gupta: Maybe a friend or not.

Prabhupada: This is philosophy. Not that "Because I am friend, I will do, and you will sleep and get dysentery." No. You have to work. Everything is already arranged, but you must work. That is wanted. Otherwise, why Arjuna was induced to fight. Krsna has already arranged. And Arjuna also: "Yes." Karisye vacanam tava [Bg. 18.73]. "Whatever you say..." This is Krsna consciousness. [break] ...politician, Balavanta? He's not here. So let him preach that "We shall, if you take our Krsna consciousness movement, there will be no unemployment." He can at least give this manifesto to the..., "There will be no more unemployment." People will be very nice, very glad to hear. Now this machine, this machine nonsense means unemployment. One machine will work for hundred men. So hundred men becomes unemployed, and one technician, he gets all the salaries. To work on the computer, com...

Devotee: Computer, yes.

Prabhupada: Machine. And he's very expert. He'll take three thousand dollars. And others will be unemployed. This is going on. And they are thinking: "Advancement of civilization." Advancement of civilization means "Exploit others and you become happy." This is advancement of civilization. "Others may die for such, out of starvation, and one man takes all the money and spends it for wine and women and motor car." That's all. This is advancement of civilization. Sarve sukhino bhavantu. This is Vedic civilization. "Let everyone be happy." That is Vedic civilization. And the demonic civilization, they're: "Let everyone suffer; I become happy. That's all." And Vaisnava is thinking, "For my salvation it is already guaranteed." But he is thinking, "How these poor people will be saved?" Soce tato vimukha-cetasa maya-sukhaya bharam udvahato vimudhan [SB 7.9.43]. Prahlada Maharaja. This is Vaisnava's position. Para-duhkha-duhkhi. He's unhappy by seeing others unhappy. For himself, he has no unhappiness. Para-duhkha-duhkhi. Krpambudhir yas tam aham prapadye [Cc. Madhya 6.254]. This is Vaisnava philosophy. Vaisnava shall work hard, undergo all tribulation, for others. He has no problem. A Vaisnava has no problem. Because he has taken shelter of Krsna, he has no problem. Kaunteya pratijanihi na me bhaktah pranasyati [Bg. 9.31]. Krsna also gives guarantee, "Anyone who has taken shelter of My..., he is saved. I will give him protection." Krsna says, aham tvam moksayisyami sarva... Everything is there. For Vaisnava there is no suffering, personally. But he is very much anxious: "How these rascals will be happy?" That is his business. "These rascals are misled. They are going astray, unhappy. So how they should be happy?" So that is Vaisnava's business. So the Vaisnava, therefore, will have no politics. Politics means planning for one's own happiness. That is politics. So in our society there should be no diplomacy, no politics. Everyone should be eager how to do good to others. That is Vaisnava. If he's planning something, that "I shall be leader," "I shall be doing something," that is not Vaisnavism. That politics is not good.

Devotee: It seems that people are so attached to sense gratification, if we tell them we want to stop all these facilities for drinking, cinema, women, like that, they become angry.

Prabhupada: So that, that is natural. If you give good instruction to a rascal, he'll be angry. Murkhayopadeso hi prakopayati na samayati (?). Murkha, a rascal, if you give him good instruction... But give him practical. "Come here. Sit down. Take prasadam. Chant Hare Krsna. And help me by doing this." In this way you have to... Just like a child. Child does not want to go to school, but some, by... Find out some means so that he'll be induced. That is intelligence. He'll be angry, naturally. He's a rascal. He'll be angry. That is not unnatural. Murkhayopadeso hi prakopayati na samayati (?). Just like a snake. You feed the snake with milk. It will increase the poison. That's all. Practically attract. Practically attract. That is the Hare Krsna movement will practically attract the people. If the world affairs are adjusted according to our Krsna conscious plan, there will be no difficulty for all the nations, all the countries. They will be happy. So we have to educate people gradually. And by our example, living example, we'll have to attract. (pause)

Local people: (calling out in distance) Harilalji! Harilalji!

Prabhupada: Hare Krsna. Jaya. At least they are remembering Harilalji by seeing us. So much benefit was in that. Eh?

Gupta: When we pass, people say "Hare Krsna, Hare Rama."

Prabhupada: This is the test of Vaisnava. If one is actually Vaisnava, then by seeing him one will chant Hare Krsna. This has been created all over the world. Yes. Wherever we go, they chant Hare Krsna. Even at midnight in Athens. Yes. That we have experienced. This is the definition given by Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

Jayadvaita: Prabhupada, if Krsna had already done all the work at Kuruksetra, so why was He so eager to have Arjuna work?

Prabhupada: Huh?

Jayadvaita: Because He'd already done the work.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Jayadvaita: Why did He want Arjuna to work?

Prabhupada: Just to show example, that "Don't sit idly, rascal. Work." Krsna has already done, but you must work. This is the example.

Jayadvaita: People will argue that "Why should we work? If we can make an arrangement for being idle..."

Prabhupada: Eh?

Jayadvaita: People argue that "If we can make an arrangement to be idle, then it's nice. We've worked so hard. Now we can be idle. That's nice."

Prabhupada: Then, that, if you become idle, you'll be diseased. You'll have dysentery. That's all. That will not help you. You'll have to suffer. That, that, that stage has already come. Because so many rascals are idle, now there is so many things want. So you'll suffer. If you don't work, then you'll suffer. (end)

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk -- March 15, 1974, Vrndavana

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Nice quotes from HH Radhanath Swami

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Nice quotes from HH Radhanath Swami

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Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami, Srimad-Bhagavatam Canto 1, Chapter 19-Must Read!!

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Thursday, November 23, 2006

Bhakti Vidya Purna Swami, Srimad-Bhagavatam Canto 1, Chapter 19

Devotional service is very simple. It can be attained in a moment. It is a matter of changing perspective. We just have to change our idea that we are the controller and enjoyer to the idea that God is the controller and enjoyer. The whole thing is to convince our mind that devotional service is OK. We worry about losing our identity. If I give up my material identity, will I be maintained? Will things go OK?

We are materially attached because we are in illusion thinking that the material world is eternal and full of happiness. Thus the Bhagavatam is always reminding us that this world is temporary and full of misery. It is not required to tell people that material endeavor is useless since by knowing this world is temporary and miserable, people can figure it out.

Vedic principles involve applying transcendental ideas to the material world.

When devotees would criticize other devotees Srila Prabhupada would correct them by telling them to first take up the service of those they were criticizing, and then they could criticize.

An uttama-bhakti (first class devotee) can be in bhava or prema . From bhava one can fall down, as did King Bharata. So a first class devotee can fall down, contrary to what some people think.

Varnasrama is to insure the depth and quality of the relationships between people so they are satisfied physically, mentally, and emotionally, and can thus peacefully execute their spiritual duties. It is not an economic system. Economics is there so that the other can go on.

Fire analogy: Let say you have a big pile of wood. Some is dry. Some is wet. Some has mud on it. Some has lichens growing on it. And you have a little flame. So what do you focus on, the little flame or the big pile of wood with all its little defects? If you focus on the flame, in time the pile of wood will become a lump of ashes. A devotee focuses on the flame.

In varnasrama one is classified according to one's prominent interests, activities, and abilities, as persons may have characteristics of multiple varnas or asramas.

It is not a problem that people have anarthas (unwanted desires) in the heart. It is a problem when they do not identify them and try to purify or remove them.

Bhaktivinoda Thakura advised that periodically we should analyze our situation and try to increase the quality of our service. If we understand where we are actually at, then we can see how to progress.

Our strategy should be to adjust our situation so the anarthas do not bother the spark of devotion we are fanning. While doing this cultivation, we should focus on the spark of devotion not the anarthas.

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Manu Samhita: Principle and Implementation-Powerful points to ponder upon!

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Being the moderator of this site I get the privilege of promoting my comments to posts. I'd also like to use this as an opportunity to direct your attention to this comments exchange between Krishna-kirti Prabhu [website] and Amara Prabhu [website].

Discussions amongst devotees about how the people in general may be benefited are very auspicious.

Personally I have studied the edition of Manu Samhita pictured here, and also another similar dharma-sastra called the "Yakñavalkya-smrti".

Here's my contribution:

Srila Prabhupada said:

"Manu gave the law known as Manu-samhita, which is full of directions based on varna and asrama concerning how to live as a human being. These are very scientific ways of life, but under the rule of demons like Hiranyakasipu, human society breaks all these systems of law and order and gradually becomes lower and lower. Thus there is no peace in the world. The conclusion is that if we want real peace and order in the human society, we must follow the principles laid down by the Manu-samhita and confirmed by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krishna."

- Srimad Bhagavatam 7.8.48

In this quote Srila Prabhupada makes a distinction between the time, place, and circumstance specific rules in Manu Samhita and the principles that these implement. Smrti-sastra is generated by empowered brahmanas for the specific situation that it addresses.

"We do not want all these rituals. Chanting Hare Krishna is our only business. According to the Manu-samhita you are all mlecchas and yavanas. You cannot touch the Manu-samhita, what to speak of translating it. So if you try to follow the Manu-samhita then you become a mleccha and yavana and your career is finished"

- Letter to Madhusudhana, May 19, 1977

We might take the particular point which Srila Prabhupada has broken out from Manu Samhita (about women not being CEOs) and highlighted in this commentary, as being specifically indicated by his Divine Grace as normative and desirable, and I'm happy to do that.

At the same time, as Madhava Ghosh pointed out [in this comment], the healthy implementation of the normative role of women cannot be separated from implementation of the normative qualification of men. Varnasrama is about qualification, not just birth. You're not a man just because you were born with male genitals. You have to man up and step up to the role.

When Men are Men, Women are Women

As His Holiness Bhakti Vidya Purna Maharaja put it so succinctly: "When men are men, women are women."

That's a simple yet powerful statement with profound implications in terms of both ideal and strategy for implementation.

A lot of problems come when unqualified men demand that roles be respected when qualification is not present. This is the same dynamic that lead the people to reject the varnas at the time of Buddha. Similarly people have rejected traditional gender roles.

Just as both Buddha and Sankara demonstrated at their relative points in the course of social development, we need intelligent readjustment. We have to keep the goal in sight like the pole star ("normative view" in the language of Krishna-kirti prabhu), and work our way back onto the "royal road" of varnasrama (as Srila Prabhupada describes it Bhagavad-gita—the safer path).

There's not much point dogmatically following the same route the road follows when you've stepped off it. We have to negotiate the actual terrain we are on, and make our way simultaneously forward, and back onto the road.

If we want to see traditional gender roles remanifested in a contemporary context, then we need to understand the essence of them, and also understand how their misuse has lead to their abandonment. Then we can create something that is at the one time contemporary, natural, organic, and functional.

First Deserve, then... you don't even have to Demand

From Satsvarupa Goswami's ISKCON in the 70s:

"If we gain political power, will we follow Manu-samhita?

"First gain power, he said. Then yes, Manu-samhita. Actually everything is in the Gita and Bhagavatam in gist. Manu-samhita is based on varnasrama and that is in the Gita, I created the four orders. First we would divide society into orders by quality and work, not birth. Someone made a brahmana would have to act like a brahmana or else he would be punished."

So first gain power. That means become qualified to lead before demanding that others follow.

As the maxim has it: "He who thinks he leads but has no-one following is merely taking a walk".

"Actually the qualified brahmanas are meant to give direction to the kings for proper administration in terms of the scriptures like the Manu-samhita and Dharma-sastras of Parasara. A typical king is the ideal of the people in general, and if the king is pious, religious, chivalrous and munificent, the citizens generally follow him."

- Srimad Bhagavatam 1.9.27

Qualification is a pre-requisite, and then implementation follows naturally. As Prabhupada points out here, if you have the qualification, you don't need to spend so much time arguing with people about how they should follow you, you just spend your time actually leading them. In the words of Srila Prabhupada, "first deserve, then desire".

So a lot of our time might be better spent focusing on our own qualification than railing at people for not following. It's a poor workman who blames his tools, and a poor leader who blames their "followers."

Andy Stanley puts it: "As soon as you blame your followers you've stopped leading".

This is not to devalue the valuable work that is done by thinkers who contemplate normative views and discuss implementation pathways. However, especially for new devotees their initial focus is better directed to the essential practices of bhakti, such as sadhana, study of sastra, and cultivating Vaisnava qualities and relationships.

I've found that if people respect you as a person they naturally respect what you say. When you give them relevant advice on their personal situation they are more likely to follow it. Change begins with us and then goes one person at a time. A brahmana is one who thinks globally (in fact universally, and beyond), and acts locally. He becomes an empowered agent of positive change.

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